Do I have a rare Walther PPK?

[DontBurnMyFlag]

Hey everyone,

A long while ago, I purchased a used Walther PPK from a gun store for $275. Its in fair shape, .32acp (7.65mm), German lettering engraved on the side, Wooden grips with a circular gold eagle emblem with the letters "SILF" underneath.

The side says "Mod. PPK", but someone told me it was a PPKS because it had a 7+1 capacity.

The barrel that shows through the ejection port is stamped with an "N"



Can anyone lend a hand?

Thanks!

 

[dfariswheel]

I'm not an expert on older Walther PP series pistols, but more info would help.

If the slide has "Zella Mehlis" on it, it's a pre-war to late WWII Nazi model.

If it says "Made in Germany" or has an Ulm, Germany address, it's post-War.

The grips probably say "SILE", which was a maker of inexpensive replacement grips.

Unless the magazine is altered or or a longer one from a PPK/s, the guns IS a PPK as stamped on the slide.

 

[DontBurnMyFlag]

Here is a picture of the weapon. Its not that high quality.

Indeed the grips are SILE and it is just a tad worn so I couldnt see.

The slide does say "Zella Mehlis" on it. Along with "wafenfabrik Walther"

So the side says from left to right

"Wafenfabrik Walther, Zell Mehlis (Thur?)
"Walther's Patent Cal 7,62 m/m Mod P P K"

Im sorry for the lack of information.

 

[Joe the Redneck]

That's a PPk. I have the PPks and the grip in longer.

I have a pre war PPks that in in 380. Not all that common. It also has a heel clip mag as opposed to the button. I have never been able to find a value on it.

Joe

 

[HisSoldier]

Man, what a find! Looks like over 90% condition? It's got to be a bargain at the price you paid.Too bad the grips aren't original.

 

[denfoote]

In the absence of any other information, I would say that you had a pre war commericial PPK.

The "N" stamping should be "eagle over N" it is a proof mark that indicates that the gun has passed the German Government's standards for quality.

If the proofmark were an eagle over swastika, then it would be a wartime gun.

My estimation, that it is a common commericial PPK made sometime before the Nazi's came to power.

The 7.65mm (.32acp) chambering was the most common for this gun.

 

[tipoc]

The gun is not rare but German made Walthers are desireable. Out here the same gun will go for 400-500 a bit more with the box and accessories.

The PPK has grips which enclose the backstrap because the gun was made without a backstrap for reduced size and generally comes with grips that cover the backstrap. The PP and the PPKS have exposed backstraps.

Replacement grips for these guns are available from a few makers.

The Blue Book of Gun Values is a useful referrence on gun pricing particularly for classic guns like this one.

tipoc

 

[code404]

Here my Wather ppk

Another "rare"?
Only the serial number is stamped, No Walther logo stamped.....

I have another Walther ppk "normal" with Walther logo like this..

 

[dfariswheel]

Your "rare" Walther PPK appears to be a heavily buffed re-blued gun.
It's most likely that the slide lettering was simply polished off during the buffing operation.

This is rather common with guns that have heavily worn or pitted slides and frames that have been re-finished by a ham-handed polisher who over did it.

 

[tipoc]

I agree with Dfaris, the other markings were polished out.

tipoc

 

[modifiedbrowning]

I have a pre war PPks that in in 380.

Joe, the PPK/S did not exist until 1968 because the GCA of 1968 made a German made PPK too small to be importable.
The PPK/S is a PP frame with a PPK slide to make it tall enough to have enough points to pass the GCA importation rules.