Does your Knoxx Hurt you?

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Went to the range today fired some 3" slugs & some 2 3/4 slugs/00buck
My head is killing me. I don't have so much of an issue with a solid stock, I'm not sure its really doing its job.
Its out of a Remington 870 is this just a make & model issue or do all Knoxx's feel like that.
 
I may have the same Tactical 870 as you. I agree that the Knoxx stock doesn't help much with recoil. It looks like it should work well, but in practice doesn't. Perhaps it's the angle with which the stock meets the shoulder. It's at a more downward angle than a normal shotgun stock.
 
I agree!

Sept.3,11 Yes sir I would have to agree on this product having it's issues and having watched a lot of YouTube videos you can certainly see that the energy of the shotguns blast is transfered into a different area of the stock and shooter pending who and how they are shooting the said product. I won't buy one after seeing all the kicks into the cheek and even seeing one shooter spitting blood out after a few double 00 shots. The product even malfunctioned with the internal springs letting loose. I think money better spent on a different stock. Remember that you are shooting a shotgun and ,if it gets hot in the kitchen perhaps you should get out. It Is what it is. If I wanted a shotgun that didn't kick ,well I would of bought me a girly gun like a 410 or something that you know doesn't recoil as much. I would take a good wooden or composite stock with a good butt plate over the said any day. Well thats my story and I am sticking to it. Over and out.
 
I shoot 2-3/4 slugs and 00 buck out of mine for about an hour at a time and find my 870 comfortable to shoot. I'm 5' 8" and 136 lbs. Granted, I've never used my 870 with a regular stock, so I'm unable to make a comparison.

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I'm guessing the problem might be folks trying to apply their Knoxx stock like a standard stock with a standard cheek weld. You almost want a "floating" cheek weld, allowing the stock to absorb most of the recoil energy. Also, if you place your cheek too close up on the receiver, you're going to get a solid whack as the bell comes back.

My experience is the same as EAJ -- could shoot slugs and 00 buck a long time without feeling any wear. Also, I can shoot those rounds rapid-fire from the hip, not even bracing the stock on my hip, without feeling any whack on my hand.


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If you aren't supposed to get a proper cheek weld than whats the point? The Knoxx that is on my Dads 870 Express is uncomfortable on my cheek yet my 1100 in 12 gauge is more comfortable with anything.
 
FIVETWOSEVEN said:
If you aren't supposed to get a proper cheek weld than whats the point? The Knoxx that is on my Dads 870 Express is uncomfortable on my cheek yet my 1100 in 12 gauge is more comfortable with anything.
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You might have to account for a slightly different line of sight/POI versus a standard cheek weld. The trade off is that for some shooters with sensitive shoulders (or less "natural padding" on their shoulders ;) ), it saves a lot of wear and tear.

I've found that it's worth it, but of course, YMMV...


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The knoxx on my Moss. 835 is great, I can shoot 3.5" mags with little discomfort. I believe the fact that I have a reddot that mandates that my cheek barely touches the stock directs most of the recoil away from my face toward my shoulder.
 
I have an early Knoxx stock system when they first came out and Hogue was selling them for a while,then I believe Blackhawk.I put it on a Mossberg 500 that had the factory synthetic stock and forearm and GR sights,it kicked like a mule in factory configuration..The Knoxx dampened recoil a bit but it pinched my right cheek if I hadn't shaved in awhile or a beard.
A Hogue stock was a better fit and dampened recoil better than the Knoxx system.
 
Basically if you want a nice cheek weld avoid this stock unless you want it punching you in the face during each shot. If you have a sight where you don't really need a strong weld I am sure it would work great.
 
Very simple - the stock and gun do not fit you properly - that is the reason a stock bruises or slaps your cheek. NOT putting your face on the stock only leads to poor performance and not hitting what you are aiming or pointing at
 
I have come to a conclusion, I'm going to get rid of that piece of junk and just get a nice synthetic stock.
I have 0 issues with recoil in my shoulder. I enjoy it. My issues are when it hits me the face. So back to the old school on the WM for me.
 
I've got the non recoil reducing knoxx stock on my 870 and I feel very little recoil from it, Very comfortable and haven't had hitting the cheek issue that people have with the recoil reducing one people complain about.
 
Mick_W said:
I've got the non recoil reducing knoxx stock on my 870 and I feel very little recoil from it, Very comfortable and haven't had hitting the cheek issue that people have with the recoil reducing one people complain about.
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In all honesty, the cheek-whack that people complain about is pretty easy to avoid. If one looks at the photo EAJ posted, note where the bell flares out just in front of the retracting shoulder stock, and note where the retracting stock begins. Make sure one's cheek is 1/2" or more behind that line, and you will never get the bell whack. I choose to also "float" my cheek slightly, but that really isn't necessary.


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You might have to account for a slightly different line of sight/POI versus a standard cheek weld. The trade off is that for some shooters with sensitive shoulders (or less "natural padding" on their shoulders ), it saves a lot of wear and tear.
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I'm 6'3 and 155 lbs and slugs and buckshot don't bother me with a traditional stock, no natural padding here.;)

About the cheek weld though, when it comes to shotgunning, having a proper cheek weld is essential for having proper aim. This is both what I've been taught and also what I've found.
 
FIVETWOSEVEN said:
I'm 6'3 and 155 lbs and slugs and buckshot don't bother me with a traditional stock, no natural padding here.;)
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FIVETWOSEVEN said:
About the cheek weld though, when it comes to shotgunning, having a proper cheek weld is essential for having proper aim. This is both what I've been taught and also what I've found.
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I'm glad you don't mind it... :cool:


I have a surgically repaired right shoulder, and I figger anything to keep me out of the operating room a second time is a good thing. :D

As I noted in my previous post, you CAN put a solid cheek weld on the Knoxx stock -- I just opt not to...




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When I use my Dads 20 Gauge 870 I do even though I feel the recoil in my cheek, then again I really don't have a need to use his gun since mine covers all bases.
 
I've also noticed that a lot of people with Knoxx stocks tend to collapse it to its shortest LOP. Do that and it will definitely smack you in the face.
 
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