Donald trump now supports no fly list gun ban

[Evergreen]

After the San Bernardino shooting, a majority of the Republican candidates strongly defended our Constitution and liberties against the treasonous call against Barack Hussein Obama to remove 2nd Amendment rights of any American citizen the government felt was "Untrustworthy" and added to the magical "No Fly List", which has no real basis in our legal system, no due process and is entirely up to the discretion of the federal government based on their own criteria. Basically, at a moment's notice a group of governing officials can decide who is a criminal and who is trustworthy. What we are seeing here is the beginning of the end of our freedoms, liberties and civil rights with the government using "National Security" as a means to override the laws and legal processes that were instated in this country for hundreds of years to protect you.

I never liked DOnald Trump and never trusted the previously Democrat, previously anti-gun, the big roller who reaped the benefits of illegal labor), and who is also a close friend of the Clinton family. Ironically, everyone brushed away his support for an AWB after Sandy Hook, which he of course, revoked later, saying he was confused (or some other BS).

However, after the San Bernardino shooting, this fraud has shown his true colors. I think, even the Trump Apologists who may come here to attack me may be stumped on how to defend him with his last statements. Yes, I know Trump gets away with a lot of crap that no other Republican politician can get away with . However, does Trump get a free pass for supporting treason against the American people and the destruction of our civil rights?

So, after the San Bernardino shooting every Republican candidate was quizzed about their opinions of people on the No Fly List being able to purchase a gun. Whereas almost every Republican candidate said they are against the government trampling on civil liberties, Donald Trump came out in support of Obama's proposal, saying he would support a ban of "potential" terrorists on the No Fly List from purchasing guns. He said this is something he seriously would consider.. Basically, the slickster fraud has shown his true colors and agenda. Perhaps, he is not quite as slick as he portrays, since he just revealed before the election that he has not respect for our Constitution and the rights of our citizens he is suppose to defend. Basically, Trump has supported Obama's call for fascism and has declared our constitutional rights are expendable if the government has suspicions that we are terrorists..

Please Define "Terrorist". Since when was it a crime to be a potential threat. If you have not committed a crime or there is no evidence you are going to commit one, you are not a criminal and cannot have your rights restricted. A government who can decide what constitutional laws apply to you is an authoritarian government.

Among the other Republicans, I feel have betrayed us are John R Kasich of Ohio and Chris Christie of New Jersey who say they could support a gun ban of people on the No Fly List, as well.

Please I encourage everyone to read the article completely..
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/08/u...republicans-on-the-spot.html?mwrsm=Email&_r=0

And Donald J. Trump, who has been leading the field in most national and state polls for months, said that he also would be open to preventing terrorism suspects from buying firearms.

“I would certainly take a look at it,” Mr. Trump told CBS on Sunday. “I’m very strongly into the whole thing with Second Amendment. But if you can’t fly, and if you have got some really bad — I would certainly look at that very hard.”

SOLUTION (As per THR Guidelines):
I would encourage anyone who wants to vote for Donald Trump this election to reconsider and vote for another Republican candidate who supports our civil liberties, freedoms and rights based on our Constitution and legal system. A magical No Fly List where the government decides who is a criminal and who is not at their own discretion should not be supported by any candidate we elect into office.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

Trump was a lot of things before he decided to run for president.

He was for the assault weapons ban. Then when he decided to run for president, the political tide had turned in the U.S. and he decided to run as a Republican. All of a sudden he was pro 2A.
If the trend was towards Democrats, he would have ran as a Democrat.

I doubt you've heard a single thing come out of his mouth that he actually believes (other than of course when he talks about how great he is). It's all about what the voting base he's after wants to hear.

 

[ilbob]

Trump is one to speak his mind and his opinions seem to change on things, sometimes pretty quickly. It may seem to him that the no fly list is a good idea, even though it has served no useful purpose (much like the TSA).

It may just be a matter of trying to educate him about some of this stuff. A lot of people who are not associated with normal people on an everyday basis just do not get how intrusive and evil government has become because they are not affected by it all that much.

The reality is that it appears that the only R candidate who has a remote chance of winning the general election is Trump. The other candidates are just not known well enough on the national scene to get the votes needed to win. People like familiar names when they go into the voting booth. I think that is why the R establishment is so shocked that Jeb Bush is doing so poorly. They figured he was a lock given the name recognition. But, I think a lot of people just do not want another Bush. It is not even about the man, or the family, just that we probably have an issue with dynasties.

There are no perfect candidates. Reagan was solid but he was not perfect either. Remember he raised the SS tax and came up with the earned income tax credit. Sometimes you have to do what it takes to get elected and to govern. That is part of politics whether one likes to admit it or not.

 

[steve4102]

Trump gave the perfect answer, a non-answer.

Did not support it like Hillary and Sanders, did not denounce it either.

He simply said he would "Take a look at it".

"Take a look at" is in no way an endorsement for.

 

[R.W.Dale]

You mean a politician who doesn't simply say "it's my way or the highway?"

How terrible

I assure you were it not for trump moving the party right every last one of those other useless RHINOS would be breaking over like a cheap shotgun for the DNC to pass whatever anti gun legislation polling data tells them minorities and single mothers support.

I will say this once before this thread gets locked. You have two choices in this election Hillary or Trump.

If you actually think any other candidate poses a threat to Clinton your grasp of political reality is tenuous at best AKA a Paul supporter.

This election for millions will come down to one issue. Not voting for a lying slimy piece of garbage who's held any office previously.

 

[HexHead]

He simply said he would "Take a look at it".

"Take a look at" is in no way an endorsement for.

That's exactly what I heard him say as well. He mentioned other things that bared taking a look at as well. He was very noncommittal about it all.

At first blush, if you know nothing about how the no-fly list works (like most voters), it sounds almost logical. Almost. But like everything else, the devil is in the details.

 

[Evergreen]

Trump gave the perfect answer, a non-answer.

Did not support it like Hillary and Sanders, did not denounce it either.

He simply said he would "Take a look at it".

"Take a look at" is in no way an endorsement for.

The perfect answer would be we have a Constitution, 2nd Amendment, a Legal System, Courts with a judicial process. He could have then further stated, the government doesn't get to decide without Due Process who is a criminal and who is not. This is the perfect answer. Saying I will consider fascism and overriding our Constitution is nothing to commend or respect. Whereas any Democrat responded like this, people would be up in arms, but somehow Trump says the exact same thing and people say, he is just being modest or intelligent. REALITY CHECK!

I am sorry , but I wholeheartedly disagree with Trump and your defense of him. The perfect answer was what the other so-called "spineless" Republican candidates which were in defense of our Constitution and laws. I am surprised anyone can defend a politician who advocates for circumventing our Constitution and gives the government power that expands beyond the boundaries of our legal system and very easily endanger our civil liberties.

In my opinion, Trump is the spineless candidate and is the one who is capitulating to the Democrats, not the other Republicans. But, people can get blinded, IMO, by a very smooth , hard talking salesman, which Trump is, in my opinion.


Just a recap on history, that Adolf Hitler used "National Security" as a means to disarm many of his own citizens who the government deemed were a "threat". As much as I fear Islamic terrorists, I potentially fear my government much more.

 

[Bobson]

I dunno why people seem to think so highly of Trump. He's a successful businessman. Great. That doesn't mean he's going to successfully lead a country. Anyway, it's not like he has a chance at getting the GOP's nomination anyway. May as well pretend he doesn't exist, as far as politics go.

 

[Frank Ettin]

Politics.