Double Action Fun Shoot

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Happy New Year's Eve to you THR wheelgunners!

I thought I'd experiment with something I haven't yet seen yet - A Double Action Fun Shoot.

Though I know it's not a given that all shooters shoot their DA wheelguns in DA, many, including me, do, either because they simply enjoy it, they compete in combat action shooting events, or because a DA revolver is their choice as a CCW. Whatever their motivation, and despite the limitations some might think a double action trigger would impose, a practiced wheelgunner can be impressively fast and pretty darned accurate. There are combat action events that test DA revolver speed and accuracy, but I thought it’d be interesting to experiment with a Fun Shoot to test pure overall double action accuracy. In addition to being fun, you may satisfy some curiosity to see how you rate among your fellow wheelgunners, and it may highlight some areas you might be interested in improving upon.

I tried to keep the rules as simple as possible. In effect, the shooter simply takes 5 aimed, deliberate double action shots at each of 4 bullseyes on a single piece of paper. Add up the 4 scores for a total score and adjust as needed (see Optional Bullseye below). Highest score in each category wins bragging rights and forum-wide huzzahs.

1. Target:

- Download and print the attached target containing 5 bullseyes on standard 8.5x11 paper. Edit: Seems to be a formatting issue, which I'm not smart enough to fix, but if simply hit "print", the target will likely print too small. Tips for printing the target are offered on post #6 below.

- The top and bottom 2 are to be shot 2-handed and 1-handed, respectively.

- The left and right 2 are to be shot weak- and strong-handed, respectively.

- The center bullseye is an optional target (see #5).

- To be valid, the overall score is to be determined from the same target, i.e. on the same piece of paper. If you flub a string, you can certainly re-shoot, but you'll have to use a fresh target and re-shoot everything to be valid.

- The target must be completed in one trip to the range. Once you "start" the match by shooting one of the bullseyes, finish it by shooting the other 3 (and possibly the optional target), then report the score(s) you get.

- No fliers. Everything counts. If you miss the paper entirely, or one of your shots encroaches on another bullseye, be honest, and let that shot count as "zero".

2. Distance: 21 feet (7 yards)

3. Shooting: 5 rounds per bullseye, 20 (or 25 with bonus) rounds total, shot standing, unsupported, double action only! As indicated in Rule 1 and on the target itself, you'll be shooting 4 combinations of strong/weak and one/two-handed.

4. Scoring: Total points. 246 possible. The higher point is awarded if the hole touches a line. A sample is included.

5. Optional Bullseye: To test your nerves a bit, I added an optional extra bullseye. If you choose to shoot this bullseye, you may do so in any way you shot any of the other targets (e.g. strong 2-handed, standing, unsupported, double action), but here's the catch: If this score is better than all of the other 4, these points get added to your overall score. If this score is less than the highest score, these points get deducted from your overall score. If this score equals the score of your best target, these points get neither added nor deducted from your score. This is discussed a bit more below.

6. Sights: Irons only.

7. 6 Categories: Rimfire and Centerfire, with each platform subdivided into a Snub Nosed Revolver (<3" barrel), Service Revolver (3"-4" barrel) and Target Revolver (>4") category. I initially considered keeping rimfire and centerfire together, but decided to separate them so shooters can "compete" in more categories if they can.

8. Reporting, Submission & Posting of scores: A shooter may submit scores for any category they qualify, and may submit multiple times per category. Targets and scores may be posted directly to the thread or PM'd to me. Include the specific gun, barrel length and caliber. At the end of the match I'll post all the scores, but only reveal the top shooter in each category.

9. Completion Date: Midnight (EST), Saturday, January 31st. I'll try to post the results shortly thereafter.



An example target is shown. Here, the best individual score our shooter shoots is 45 points, shot, not surprisingly, strong 2-handed. Despite the score, the shooter is miffed by the 6-point “flier” and decides to shoot the optional target. To his dismay, he discovers it is one of the 10-pointers that was the anomaly, and he scores a 43 on the Optional Bullseye, which is subtracted from, rather than added to his score.

I haven’t yet had the chance to try my hand at this, and hope to get to the range early next week. In the meantime, if anyone has any feedback, feel free to pass it on.

Break out those wadcutters, and Good Shooting!


Example:
DAfunShootExample.gif


Printable target:
DAfunShootTarget-1.jpg
 
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Howdy, folks.

I thought I'd try to bump this thread back to life by putting my mouth where my money is, so to speak. I printed out some targets and headed off to the range.

In total, I shot 3 targets with my .22 and 3 with my .357. In the spirit of complete transparency, I'm posting them all - 2 here, and the remainder over on TFL.

My .22 is a 4" S&W 617, so it belongs in the Rimfire Service Revolver category. My score was a 170. Turns out it was tougher to shoot good scores with my .22 than with the .38, which surprised me, since my .22 is a real tackdriver.

My .357 is a S&W 686 (shooting 148grain wadcutter .38 special), so it goes in the Centerfire Revolver category. My score here was a 183.

In these cases, I opted to not shoot the Optional Bullseye, since I felt the other 4 were shot pretty much within my capabilities. I did shoot the Optional Bullseye on one of the targets posted on TFL, and it paid off. Check it out.

C'mon - Any others?

Rimfire Service Revolver target (score = 170):

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Centerfire Service Revolver target (score = 183):

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When I went to print out the target, I reformatted it to fill the page. That distorted the targets into ovoid shapes. It would seem that unless we can get a standardized format for the targets, we will all be shooting at something different.
 
How big are the targets supposed to be? I printed off some that has the black being 7/8 inch accross.
I like the idea of the match, why not use a standard regulation type target? The NRA invented that wheel years ago for pistol shooting.
Fifty foot Timed and Rapid fire target would work, or the larger 25 yard version. The match director gets to adjust the distance as needed.
 
When I went to print out the target, I reformatted it to fill the page. That distorted the targets into ovoid shapes. It would seem that unless we can get a standardized format for the targets, we will all be shooting at something different.

How big are the targets supposed to be? I printed off some that has the black being 7/8 inch accross.

Agreed - this'll only work if we get the targets to print consistenly. This formating issue was an unpleasant surprise.

The 8-ring is supposed to be exactly quarter-sized. I tried to post a pic below. The outer 4-ring is just under 3" (2.95", to be exact).

I wouldn't re-format to fill the page. Open the target, then use "page setup" to adjust the size (by making it bigger than 100%). From my computer at work, 135% seemed to work, but from this computer, 135% is too big. Before printing, use "print preview" to see if it's the right size. As you can see on mine, when sized correctly using this method, the very bottom of the bottom 4-rings are chopped off when printed.

Alternatively, you can click on the target link to get the new page to open. Use the "save as" function to save it to your desktop. Re-open from your desktop. On my computer, it'll open to the correct size.

why not use a standard regulation type target?

Mostly, requiring that all bulls be shot from the same target tests your nerves as a shooter a bit and keeps us all honest. You may shoot a particular string great, but your score's gonna reflect your overall marksmanship. Won't be so if you can cherrypick your targets.


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Actually, I don't think anyone is going to be interesated unless we can standarize the target.

I wouldn't re-format to fill the page. Open the target, then use "page setup" to adjust the size (by making it bigger than 100%). From my computer at work, 135% seemed to work, but from this computer, 135% is too big. Before printing, use "print preview" to see if it's the right size. As you can see on mine, when sized correctly using this method, the very bottom of the bottom 4-rings are chopped off when printed.

No offense, but I don't think the above statement solves the problem.

I think it is a worthwhile challenge, but we need to either figure out a standard format that works without jumping through hoops - or choose a standard target that is accesible to everyone.

I will also work on the problem and see if I can come up with a format that works.
 
we eat these
what the ceral killer said after shooting a few smerfs

link works fine; though it comes up as 117%.
 
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pistol target pdf

This is 8.5x11 and will print hi-res.
 

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Only DA revos I have access to are a 2" Chiefs and a 6" .22

No range is all that close.

May donk around with the .22 anyhow.

Free BumP!
 
Mcborland:

Since you started this, it is incumbant upon you to choose one of the "fixed" target files as the standard. Your original file doesn't work. The one in pdf format by "Tension" in post #13 works great on my computer - simply open and push print.

Bumping and wondering why you aren't getting a response isn't going to get it.

My suggestion is to post again with a brief review the rules and instructions to get the target file from post #13 as the agreed upon target. Better yet - start a new thread with the rules, categories, and a proper target file to eliminate the confusion. Many would not read this far.

Then we can proceed. You might also want to restart the clock on how much time we have to get in our entries (e.g., the end of Feb).

I think you would get some interest if it was simple and straight-forward.
 
I find the directions confusing.

How am I supposed to shoot the lower left target? One handed using weak hand only?

Is the top left two handed, but holding the gun in the weak hand?

Simple is better.
 
ok, stay tuned for a re-post...

I took rainbowbob's advice to heart: The formatting issues seem to be a pdf vs jpeg issue. I'm gonna try again with a new thread, while simplifying and clarifying the rules a bit. Stay tuned. Hopefully tomorrow.


Edit: Revised version is posted:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=419270
 
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