Double Tap Accuracy
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For me, it depends on several factors:
1. grip/arm strength to resist recoil
2. recoil of the caliber
3. physical pistol size of the pistol
4. quality of pistol's grip (skateboard taped)
5. pistol is (not) ported
6. shooter's practice
I practice a LOT of double taps and tripple taps (2 to center mass torso and 1 to head). In my case, I actually hope that the pistol DOES continue to rise ever so slightly with each round fired, because I do not want the shots to penetrate the same hole. Know what I mean. I want stopping power.
1st shot: dead center of chest (between the nipples)
2nd shot: adams apple
3rd shot: between eyes
Regardless of height, most crucial factor is center of body...spinal. At least this is what I try per my training. I have very, very good accuracy left/right, and as I said, I try to allow some "climb" effect, and for that reason I have NOT elected to get my G17 for example ported.
Last week I rented a G19C (ported) and emptied the 15 rounds plus 1 in the chamber in about 5 seconds). I was able to easily get 3 shots in under 1 second and stay centered (left/right) when doing 3-shot taps. There was nearly no climb whatsoever though because of the porting. That I did not like.
I guess if I owned one and practiced I get accustomed. Hope that answers your question. But, as my Adv. Tac. instructor taught us, do NOT do 3 shots and stop to assess...shoot the gun dry, or until the are down and not aggressive.
Doc2005
For me, it depends on several factors:
1. grip/arm strength to resist recoil
2. recoil of the caliber
3. physical pistol size of the pistol
4. quality of pistol's grip (skateboard taped)
5. pistol is (not) ported
6. shooter's practice
I practice a LOT of double taps and tripple taps (2 to center mass torso and 1 to head). In my case, I actually hope that the pistol DOES continue to rise ever so slightly with each round fired, because I do not want the shots to penetrate the same hole. Know what I mean. I want stopping power.
1st shot: dead center of chest (between the nipples)
2nd shot: adams apple
3rd shot: between eyes
Regardless of height, most crucial factor is center of body...spinal. At least this is what I try per my training. I have very, very good accuracy left/right, and as I said, I try to allow some "climb" effect, and for that reason I have NOT elected to get my G17 for example ported.
Last week I rented a G19C (ported) and emptied the 15 rounds plus 1 in the chamber in about 5 seconds). I was able to easily get 3 shots in under 1 second and stay centered (left/right) when doing 3-shot taps. There was nearly no climb whatsoever though because of the porting. That I did not like.
I guess if I owned one and practiced I get accustomed. Hope that answers your question. But, as my Adv. Tac. instructor taught us, do NOT do 3 shots and stop to assess...shoot the gun dry, or until the are down and not aggressive.
Doc2005
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Depends what I'm shooting and what gun it's in. It also depends on how far you're talking about shooting. I own 6 different calibers in pistol and they're all a litltle unique in the way they shoot. .22, 9mm, etc. is gonna be alot different from .357, .40, .45.
I usually shoot at 8-10 feet while practicing for self defense shooting. With small caliber handguns I can shoot pretty tight groups that are a couple of inches apart.
When I shoot my S&W 340pd in .357 that's just not gonna be possible for me. I can still get 4 or 5 inch groups on quick double tap shots with it and that's fine by me as long as it's center mass on the targets I'm shooting on.
I usually shoot at 8-10 feet while practicing for self defense shooting. With small caliber handguns I can shoot pretty tight groups that are a couple of inches apart.
When I shoot my S&W 340pd in .357 that's just not gonna be possible for me. I can still get 4 or 5 inch groups on quick double tap shots with it and that's fine by me as long as it's center mass on the targets I'm shooting on.
mljdeckard
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I generally practice at ten meters, and as I understand the terminology, what I do is less "Double-tap" and more "Controlled two". In shooting once, and shooting again as quickly as I can line up the front sight, I am usually putting both of them in the ten ring about half of the time. The rest of the time, the second shot is just outside the ten ring.
As I have read, in a literal 'double-tap', you shoot again as fast as possible. To me, this means, you are prepping the trigger as you recover from recoil to fire as soon as your muzzle is back down in front of the target. I have never felt like I can do this safely and accurately.
What I HAVE done, is switch out the slide on my Kimber to shoot .22s, and I can do this much more quickly than I can with a .45. What this means, is that in doing more dry-fire practice, one can learn the feel of the trigger better and anticipate better the correct timing for squeezing rapid shots. I read an article with Todd Jarrett, when he first decided to seriously compete, he started dry-firing. He fired over a million times. Click, all day long. In ingraining the exact feel of the trigger breaking, it becomes subconscious. You worry less about timing and more about the front sight. (He also confrimed that with modern 1911s, with inertial firing pins, you aren't going to hurt them by dry-firing them.) Todd Jarrett can shoot the el Presidente in 3.7 seconds. I am only an egg, as Heinlein would say.
I would do this more, but my wife frowns upon me clicking my cleared pistol at the TV all night.
As I have read, in a literal 'double-tap', you shoot again as fast as possible. To me, this means, you are prepping the trigger as you recover from recoil to fire as soon as your muzzle is back down in front of the target. I have never felt like I can do this safely and accurately.
What I HAVE done, is switch out the slide on my Kimber to shoot .22s, and I can do this much more quickly than I can with a .45. What this means, is that in doing more dry-fire practice, one can learn the feel of the trigger better and anticipate better the correct timing for squeezing rapid shots. I read an article with Todd Jarrett, when he first decided to seriously compete, he started dry-firing. He fired over a million times. Click, all day long. In ingraining the exact feel of the trigger breaking, it becomes subconscious. You worry less about timing and more about the front sight. (He also confrimed that with modern 1911s, with inertial firing pins, you aren't going to hurt them by dry-firing them.) Todd Jarrett can shoot the el Presidente in 3.7 seconds. I am only an egg, as Heinlein would say.
I would do this more, but my wife frowns upon me clicking my cleared pistol at the TV all night.
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I practice these as well, it is especially good when shooting smaller calibers. This style is called triple tap raking upward i think, which is what i refer to it as. good technique and i am sure would do the trick.
When it comes to double taps or controlled pairs, my first rd lands were ever the sights are, second rd land about 2 1/2 to 3" up and to the right of the first and the third rd is normally dead center of the head, sometimes high but i have worked on it a lot, so it normally goes where i want it. I do all these and many other drills with my xd, which i have gotten really used to and can control better than any other gun that i have done the drills with. good trainning and they are alot of fun as well. i'll try to post some pics of my targets if i ever can get to the range, the weather has been horrible here and is supposed to rain all next weekend as well!:banghead:
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