EAA importing 30 round mags for Saiga rifles?
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Drue
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I thought that that was the case too. Hi caps would render it "unsuitable for sporting purposes." I would like to see hi caps, of course, but would not like them to end the importation of Saigas.
Drue
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http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/weapon.shtml
According to Izhmash website ten shot is as large as they make.
According to Izhmash website ten shot is as large as they make.
The loophole may be that these are not military magazines, the large capacity terminology they use to cut off import of certain rifles is the ability to accept "Large Capacity Military Magazines". Could be a loophole that no military uses the Saiga or it's mags as far as I know. So it's a large capacity mag, but not a military one. Beats me, sounds plausible at least, guess we'll see...
And I think Izhmash makes 30 round mags that they non-permenantly fix to only accept 10 rounds. Supposedly you can modify them back to 30 rnders pretty quickly/easily but I'm not sure...
And I think Izhmash makes 30 round mags that they non-permenantly fix to only accept 10 rounds. Supposedly you can modify them back to 30 rnders pretty quickly/easily but I'm not sure...
Master Blaster
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http://www.eaacorp.com/news.shtml
Read here from the above link on the EAA website:
4) High Capacity Magazines for my Saiga Rifle?
The following calibers are on order with Izhmash: 7.62x39, .223, .308
5) When will the high Capacity magazines come in and what will they cost?
We can not answer this now, but we have put the items on order.
Straight from the horse's mouth.
Read here from the above link on the EAA website:
4) High Capacity Magazines for my Saiga Rifle?
The following calibers are on order with Izhmash: 7.62x39, .223, .308
5) When will the high Capacity magazines come in and what will they cost?
We can not answer this now, but we have put the items on order.
Straight from the horse's mouth.
The horse says they are on order.
That doesn't mean that Izhmash is going to actually make them but it will be great if they do.
I can't see them passing up a lucrative market like the U.S. because they don't have the goodies that the customers want so we can only hope,,,,,,,
That doesn't mean that Izhmash is going to actually make them but it will be great if they do.
I can't see them passing up a lucrative market like the U.S. because they don't have the goodies that the customers want so we can only hope,,,,,,,
Domino
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Sorry if I missed something but what is the difference in the Saiga 7.62X39 magazines and the standard AK-47 magazines. I went to a gun shop today and the guy there said that it took standard double-stack AK mags, did he tell me wrong???
mrapathy2000
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if you put ak mag in stock saiga its questionalbly non sporting. thus could be violating 922(r) 10 or less imported parts. rifle would have more than 10 imported parts and would not be suitable for import thus illegal. some have made argument it would not be illegal because its not a banned rifle. but I asked them to write ATF for their take no reply ever came.
AK mags can work in saiga though requires 4/5 US mfg parts,feedramp or substitute with section of 1" pipe. file the mag catch lever.
AK mags can work in saiga though requires 4/5 US mfg parts,feedramp or substitute with section of 1" pipe. file the mag catch lever.
All they really have to do is alter existing AK magazines or get a plant that makes AK magazines to add the "feedramp" to them. There is not law (anymore) against making "high capacity magazines" and since you are performing no alterations whatsoever to the rifle itself you arent violating 922 either.
The Saiga rifles are SPECIFICALLY named as being importable from Russia (as is the case with all arms imported from Russia). Unless the you alter the rifle into something other than what it started out as or the ATF changes its mind about its "sporting" status the rifle is legal.
What people used to do with their saigas was add a feedramp so that they could feed out of AK magazines (which lock up fine) THIS is an alteration of the rifle which means you have to make it a "domestically manufactured rifle" (via parts swapping) to make it legal. If you dont change the gun you should be fine.
The Saiga rifles are SPECIFICALLY named as being importable from Russia (as is the case with all arms imported from Russia). Unless the you alter the rifle into something other than what it started out as or the ATF changes its mind about its "sporting" status the rifle is legal.
What people used to do with their saigas was add a feedramp so that they could feed out of AK magazines (which lock up fine) THIS is an alteration of the rifle which means you have to make it a "domestically manufactured rifle" (via parts swapping) to make it legal. If you dont change the gun you should be fine.
WhoKnowsWho
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The EAA site lists the big mags for the rifles now... kinda pricey though, hopefully dealer price will be less.
http://www.eaacorp.com/parts/Magazines/smag.shtml
http://www.eaacorp.com/parts/Magazines/smag.shtml
mrapathy2000
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$39 bucks for 223 and 7.62x39 $60 if you buy 2 at once 7.62x39 or 223, $45 for 20 round 308 magazines $70 if you buy 2 308 mags at once. might be able to buy bulk and get a good price doubt it would be as reasonable as regular AK mags though.
I think I will stick with my converted US parts setup mods for AK47 and AK74 mags with robarm follower for 223.
AK47 mags $6-9 bucks
AK74 mags $5-9 bucks
US parts conversion FCG+gas piston $60+$10 for feedramp or $1 for piece of pipe to build a feedramp.
can do more though price really starts to go up and do alot of the work yourself or it cost twice as much might as well go out buy the cheap AK of the month.
I think I will stick with my converted US parts setup mods for AK47 and AK74 mags with robarm follower for 223.
AK47 mags $6-9 bucks
AK74 mags $5-9 bucks
US parts conversion FCG+gas piston $60+$10 for feedramp or $1 for piece of pipe to build a feedramp.
can do more though price really starts to go up and do alot of the work yourself or it cost twice as much might as well go out buy the cheap AK of the month.
Daedalus
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Where are the 8rd mags for the 12 gauge saiga? That is what I really want.
mrapathy2000
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in england selling for $70 USD a piece.
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