EoTech for AR-15 opinions?

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Knock on wood? So far, I have 'bout 20 orders from 'em over a 5 or 6 year period with no problems.
Well, they did send me 6 Rayovac CR123's when I ordered Energizers...
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Buy a lottery ticket! No seriously.

I don't see how they stay in business. Every forum I have ever been on is littered with threads talking about how bad they are. Mis-shipped orders, Never shipping items that were paid for, Huge delays. Refunds never getting processed.

There was one a while back on M4C where a guy from botach tried to step up and help. Even with his attempts it all went ugly really fast. I would go without an item before I ordered from them, and suggest the same to others.
 
I've had great luck with gun items bought on ebay. Before they stopped allowing magazines to be sold on the site, I got a couple of fantastic deals on new, unused mags for several of my guns, like half the price that they went for from CDNN, and way cheaper than the local rip off joints. One local place had a factory mag for my Astra A-75 for $29.95. I got 3 of them off an Ebay seller, shipped, for $31. They were exactly the same thing.
 
hemiram said:
I've had great luck with gun items bought on ebay. Before they stopped allowing magazines to be sold on the site, I got a couple of fantastic deals on new, unused mags for several of my guns, like half the price that they went for from CDNN, and way cheaper than the local rip off joints. One local place had a factory mag for my Astra A-75 for $29.95. I got 3 of them off an Ebay seller, shipped, for $31. They were exactly the same thing.
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I always have no problems with ebay, i have bought many firearms related items on their before with no problem, including optics. Unfortunately 370 is a ton of money for me and I might just stick with irons. My older brother whose account this is thinks i should use irons even if im a millionaire, he says its important to master irons before using optics. Even though he is now buying a new optic. lol
 
Unfortunately 370 is a ton of money for me
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Did you nose around at Botach?
I show the XPS2-2 for $375.20 (plus shipping), and you should get another $50 with the PDF rebate at EOTech's site.
The 512 you're looking at is $327.20 (plus shipping), and you should get another $30 with the PDF rebate.

That would put a new 512 at just over $300 delivered, and the XPS2-2 at just over $330 delivered.
'Course, iff'n it was me, I'd look hard (and I am) at the XPS line-they sure look a lot neater/more compact with the short/sideways battery compartment.

'Course, you also have Optics Planet-not quite as good prices, but shipping is free.
 
atblis, put in the eotech coupon code it gives you 20% off. I bought the xps-2 and paid $392 shipping included. Eotech has a $50 rebate going now as well. I ordered my xps-2 last week and UPS says it is showing up tom.
 
Hi everyone, my little brother started this thread and decided that he cant afford to spend that much on a sight since he is still in high school, he posted that information later in the thread. To his surprise THR member TonyAngel sent me a pm and offered to send me one of his downed eotechs for free to give to my little brother. Now my little brother can get an eotech for only the nominal price it will cost for eotech to fix it. In my opinion this is extremely kind of Tony Angel to do something like this for a kid for free with out even being asked to do so, absolutely outstanding!
 
I don't understand why you rarely see a thread saying yeah.. my EO tech died..., but you see a guy who has "killed" 5 of them... I just find it hard to believe. I have only had mine for a year, but really? 5 of them???
 
What's so hard to believe? I don't know if Eotech has changed anything since I had mine, but yeah, I killed five of them. I know that one broke that had never been on anything other than either an AR15 or a .22. The others I can say could not withstand much more than the abuse that a .223 can dish out. What I find hard to believe is that I've NEVER killed an Aimpoint. That says something to me.
 
I think I figured it out. You must be one of those people who break electonics when you are around them. Do you kill wathes when you wear them?

From what I gather on Wikipedia EoTech was acquired by L3 and has been making holographic sights since 2005 So assuming you are talking about the current line of sights that means you have killed at least 1 sight a year.

You have to be the most unlucky person I have ever met.
 
There is a reason you see people talk about broken EOTECHs. They break. Most have a huge design flaw built right into them. The battery compartment is made in such a way that the recoil of the firearms allows the batteries to damage contacts. You end up with an Optic with no power.

This is one reason the XPS series switched to a battery compartment where the battery sits sideways.

There are other issues but this is probably the most prevalent in more popular models.
 
Well mine arrived from botach within a week.
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Well thanks to you, I bought another toy ('preciate that)! :eek: :banghead:
The combo of 20% off plus $50 rebate from EOTech was just too much to resist.

I pulled the trigger on an EXPS3-2 last night...hey, one o' these days night vision stuff may be affordable?
Went up the model line mostly for the controls mounted on the side, and the included raised base to allow co-witnessing-info's a little sketchy 'bout the other XPS models, but I assume they would have to be raised to allow co-witnessing?

BTW, I ran across the same unit from Optics Planet minus the NV function, but the price is the same as Botach's (after rebate).

Actually got an order fer 6 Streamlight PT-2L's from Botach that UPS says will arrive tomorrow-got a group buy together for 'em.

Iff'n my EOTech and PT-2L's arrive (will be order #22 from 'em), I'm gonna take Azizza's advice and buy a lottery ticket! :rolleyes:

Actually, I know Botach probably has problems as there seem to be too many complaints, but since I've had nothing but good luck with 'em, it's kinda hard to stop ordering from 'em!
 
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That's just when L3 bought them. They've been making sights longer than that. Wikipedia says they were founded in 1995.
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That's why I said the current line. Unless when L3 took over they didn't change a thing. I guess I just cannot imagine why people would talk these sights up and fork out at least 400 dollars for a sight that is such a piece of crap.

I work in the LE field and I know lots of people trust their lives to these sights. Of course anyone with half a brain has iron sight backups for any electronic sight, but still if they are such garbage I don't see why military and local government would invest in them.
 
I guess I just cannot imagine why people would talk these sights up and fork out at least 400 dollars for a sight that is such a piece of crap.
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because they a) like the look of it more, b) like the reticle better, c) the price is lower

They get talked up because everybody talks up what they bought, especially if they don't use it enough to have issues. Also, survivor bias.

I work in the LE field and I know lots of people trust their lives to these sights. Of course anyone with half a brain has iron sight backups for any electronic sight, but still if they are such garbage I don't see why military and local government would invest in them.
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I'm not much on appeals to authorities, and in any event, LE are rarely authorities on anything having to do with guns. LE departments are usually on a tight budget and officers are not paid as well as they should be. The result is a propensity for buying cheap crap and not much ammo for training/practice. You should see some of the stuff on LE guns around here. It's shocking.
 
General Lee, I didn't kill one a year over five years. I killed five in one year, and no, I don't have any problems with watches. As a matter of fact, I have a preference for automatics and have never had any problems with any of them. The only point I'm trying to make is that I did kill them, regardless of the manner in which I did it. What really matters to me is that I subjected my Aimpoints to the same treatment and haven't had a single problem.

Why did I buy so many? Simple. My son preferred the Eotech reticle over the Aimpoints. If having an Eotech made shooting more fun for him, then what the heck? Thank goodness for the ACOG TA44S. Best of both worlds. Eotech type reticle and I don't have to worry about killing them.
 
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