WayneConrad
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Incorrect. It's unlawful by federal law to purchase handguns if under 21. They are lawful to own, if local law permits.
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WayneConrad
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Kentak has nailed this one exactly.
I'm not sure what the fuss is about. Means, opportunity, intent.
I'm not sure what the fuss is about. Means, opportunity, intent.
Thank you. I am astonished by most of the responses here. As for his ownership of guns under 20, looks like he was trying to buy guns from FFLs and some cut him off.
I remember thinking this guy sounded unbalanced when he posted here.
Also didn't think the news story was that bad.
Funderb
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it's just illegal to sell/transfer handguns to someone under 21 if you are an ffl.
you can buy, trade whatever at 18.
correct me if i'm wrong.
that and.. I wonder if I ask, maybe he'll give me one of his ak's
I'd like one, but would rather spend the $$ on ammo.
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we can all hope.
you can buy, trade whatever at 18.
correct me if i'm wrong.
that and.. I wonder if I ask, maybe he'll give me one of his ak's
I'd like one, but would rather spend the $$ on ammo.
: D
we can all hope.
W.E.G.
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You don't yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
I don't find anything new or surprising about this.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/04/fla.weapons.cache.ap/index.html
MIAMI, Florida (AP) -- A 20-year-old with a weapons cache that included four AK-47s was arrested after threatening over the Internet to undertake a Virginia Tech-style massacre, authorities said Thursday.
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Calin Chi Wong threatened to re-enact the Virginia Tech massacre, according to authorities.
Oregon authorities learned of a March 25 Internet message allegedly posted by Calin Chi Wong in which he threatened to re-enact the Virginia Tech killings. Two days later, Homestead Police searched the home Wong shares with his parents and found the weapons in stacked on shelves in plain view, Detective Antonio Aquino said.
Wong had 13 firearms in all, more than 5,000 rounds of ammunition, some that could pierce armor, and 100 rounds in a feeding clip with bullets "meant to take down aircraft or military machinery," Aquino said. He had hidden two AK-47s in his parents' closet, and his parents said the guns did not belong to them, Aquino said.
Wong was charged with making written threats to kill or do bodily injury via the computer and bonded out for $7,500. Additional charges are pending, he said.
It was not known whether he had a lawyer. A message left by The Associated Press at a phone number listed for Wong was not immediately returned Thursday evening. The phone at his employer, China King, rang unanswered.
Homestead Police first noticed Wong when he went to the department in February to complain he had been robbed of $800 over the Internet after he ordered a gun online using his father's PayPal account.
He told authorities he had called the FBI, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and other agencies about the issue. Aquino said Wong finally reached a boiling point when he posted the message saying he would re-enact the Virginia Tech massacre, in which student Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people last year before turning the gun on himself.
"After speaking to him and seeing his frustration, I believe that he had the potential to carry out some kind of threat," Aquino said.
Wong felt isolated and cut off, authorities noted, saying he had been buying and selling guns for about two years and word was now getting around about Wong's age. Dealers stopped selling to him, and he was being banned from certain gun-sale Web sites.
"I'm soon to the point to re-enact the whole event," Wong wrote under the name "thehumanabc," referring to the shootings last April at Virginia Tech. "This may not seem like a threat to you, but I'm sure others don't want to see it occur again. It should be a wake up call for All haters out there," according to an arrest report.
Aquino said Wong told police that making the threat made him feel good because after "he had thousands of people on the Internet paying attention to him."
But Wong also said he was just upset and frustrated and never actually planned a killing spree, Aquino said.
But authorities also found a school book bag lined with bulletproof vests inside Wong's home, as well as two handguns.
Wong is not in college, Aquino said. He graduated from an Oregon high school and attended a college for a year before moving in with his parents in Florida, authorities said.
Wong said the weapons were an investment.
"He says it's a lucrative business," Aquino said. "He said if Hillary Clinton wins, she'll put a ban on assault rifles, and these assault rifles will be worth more in value."
I don't find anything new or surprising about this.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/04/fla.weapons.cache.ap/index.html
MIAMI, Florida (AP) -- A 20-year-old with a weapons cache that included four AK-47s was arrested after threatening over the Internet to undertake a Virginia Tech-style massacre, authorities said Thursday.
art.wong.ap.jpg
Calin Chi Wong threatened to re-enact the Virginia Tech massacre, according to authorities.
Oregon authorities learned of a March 25 Internet message allegedly posted by Calin Chi Wong in which he threatened to re-enact the Virginia Tech killings. Two days later, Homestead Police searched the home Wong shares with his parents and found the weapons in stacked on shelves in plain view, Detective Antonio Aquino said.
Wong had 13 firearms in all, more than 5,000 rounds of ammunition, some that could pierce armor, and 100 rounds in a feeding clip with bullets "meant to take down aircraft or military machinery," Aquino said. He had hidden two AK-47s in his parents' closet, and his parents said the guns did not belong to them, Aquino said.
Wong was charged with making written threats to kill or do bodily injury via the computer and bonded out for $7,500. Additional charges are pending, he said.
It was not known whether he had a lawyer. A message left by The Associated Press at a phone number listed for Wong was not immediately returned Thursday evening. The phone at his employer, China King, rang unanswered.
Homestead Police first noticed Wong when he went to the department in February to complain he had been robbed of $800 over the Internet after he ordered a gun online using his father's PayPal account.
He told authorities he had called the FBI, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and other agencies about the issue. Aquino said Wong finally reached a boiling point when he posted the message saying he would re-enact the Virginia Tech massacre, in which student Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people last year before turning the gun on himself.
"After speaking to him and seeing his frustration, I believe that he had the potential to carry out some kind of threat," Aquino said.
Wong felt isolated and cut off, authorities noted, saying he had been buying and selling guns for about two years and word was now getting around about Wong's age. Dealers stopped selling to him, and he was being banned from certain gun-sale Web sites.
"I'm soon to the point to re-enact the whole event," Wong wrote under the name "thehumanabc," referring to the shootings last April at Virginia Tech. "This may not seem like a threat to you, but I'm sure others don't want to see it occur again. It should be a wake up call for All haters out there," according to an arrest report.
Aquino said Wong told police that making the threat made him feel good because after "he had thousands of people on the Internet paying attention to him."
But Wong also said he was just upset and frustrated and never actually planned a killing spree, Aquino said.
But authorities also found a school book bag lined with bulletproof vests inside Wong's home, as well as two handguns.
Wong is not in college, Aquino said. He graduated from an Oregon high school and attended a college for a year before moving in with his parents in Florida, authorities said.
Wong said the weapons were an investment.
"He says it's a lucrative business," Aquino said. "He said if Hillary Clinton wins, she'll put a ban on assault rifles, and these assault rifles will be worth more in value."
Here's a case where everything worked including police and concerned locals. Whether he planned anything or not, will come out after thorough investigation.
Let's let the courts decide guilt or innocence.
I will not let the biased press convict this person.
Let's let the courts decide guilt or innocence.
I will not let the biased press convict this person.
bogie
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Let's ask a different question...
How the heck does a 20 year old afford that kinda stuff?
How the heck does a 20 year old afford that kinda stuff?
Henry Bowman
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Unlike you and me, he probably isn't paying for room and board, life insurance, health insurance (for a family), utilities, some taxes, haircuts, dentist, summer camp for the kids, etc. Unlike many other 20 year olds, he may be spending the money his parents saved for college on things other than books and tuition.
ShunZu
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Good question.
IMHO, and very frankly, I'm glad another nut case is behind bars. I'm just sorry that the media lumps everyone that owns a gun in the same category. I guess polarization sells. And like someone said above, fear sells.
bogie
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Hey now... I've got at least that many boomsticks, and probably more ammo... Went to college, have a girlfriend.
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