Thought I'd share a few thoughts on my first BP experience last weekend.
Actually, I guess it might by my second. My first is a TC .50 cal Hawken Percussion kit that has been sitting in the box since I talked my wife into buying it for Christmas about 20 years ago. After getting bitten by the bug again by a trip to Gettysburg this summer I looked around and settled on a Remington 1858 .44 cal New Army with brass frame (Pietta from Cabela's). (I've read the comments and I still like the look.)
One thing I'd like to note is not to buy the starter kit from Cabela's. The flask is a cheap plastic POS without any sort of valve. The rest of the kit is reasonable but since you have to buy a real flask anyway it is probably a better buy to get the components you want.
Anyway, back to the story.
The first issue I found was with the documentation. The Pietta manual listed 12-15 gr of FFFg, while the manual from Cabela's listed 25-30 gr of FFFg. Quite a discrepancy. From my perusing of this forum and others it seemed that most people were in the higher range, but I really did not want to chance it. I e-mailed Pietta and they said you could go to 20-30 gr but that was really not necessary. I decided to start with 15 gr (using 777) and go from there.
Went to a DNR range last weekend to try out my new Neos, my new 1858, and to let my son shoot the 10/22. We spent quite a bit of time on the 25yd range with the .22s, then I got to try the BP. First I fired two rounds of caps through all the chambers. I then loaded one chamber with 15 gr of 777, then 15 gr of whole wheat flour. Based on what I had read I thought this was necessary to keep the ball from not being seated directly on the powder because of the light load, it also gave me a use for the POS flask. (I know others have recommended corn meal or semolina, but we didn't have either of those. Do now.) On top of that I placed the wad from the kit and a ball from the kit, with the sprue mark up. I rotated this into place and rammed the ball down. The rammer went to its full extension, hmmm, not going to try and take it out now. Rotated the cylinder to load a cap, the rotated it to one off the firing position and returned the hammer. After taking a deep breath I cocked the hammer and squeezed off my first shot. Got a reasonable cloud of smoke and a respectable boom. Think I even hit the target, though I don't exactly remember. Emboldened by my "success" I decided to remove the cylinder and load 5 chambers at one time with everything but the ball. Replaced the cylinder and loaded the balls. Just as I was getting ready to load the caps they called to clear all guns for a target check. I placed the caps and fired all 5, I think the first hit the bull, but I'm not sure where the rest went.
At that point I was informed by the range officer that all BP guns were restricted to single load only.:banghead: After the target check I loaded twice more with 20gr powder and 20gr flour but the ball still seemed to be way down and the ram fully extended. At that point I didn't want to keep single loading so I packed up and went home.
Here are the things I learned and some questions.
Anyway, thanks for reading my excessive posting. Hope to be around here for a while.
Actually, I guess it might by my second. My first is a TC .50 cal Hawken Percussion kit that has been sitting in the box since I talked my wife into buying it for Christmas about 20 years ago. After getting bitten by the bug again by a trip to Gettysburg this summer I looked around and settled on a Remington 1858 .44 cal New Army with brass frame (Pietta from Cabela's). (I've read the comments and I still like the look.)
One thing I'd like to note is not to buy the starter kit from Cabela's. The flask is a cheap plastic POS without any sort of valve. The rest of the kit is reasonable but since you have to buy a real flask anyway it is probably a better buy to get the components you want.
Anyway, back to the story.
The first issue I found was with the documentation. The Pietta manual listed 12-15 gr of FFFg, while the manual from Cabela's listed 25-30 gr of FFFg. Quite a discrepancy. From my perusing of this forum and others it seemed that most people were in the higher range, but I really did not want to chance it. I e-mailed Pietta and they said you could go to 20-30 gr but that was really not necessary. I decided to start with 15 gr (using 777) and go from there.
Went to a DNR range last weekend to try out my new Neos, my new 1858, and to let my son shoot the 10/22. We spent quite a bit of time on the 25yd range with the .22s, then I got to try the BP. First I fired two rounds of caps through all the chambers. I then loaded one chamber with 15 gr of 777, then 15 gr of whole wheat flour. Based on what I had read I thought this was necessary to keep the ball from not being seated directly on the powder because of the light load, it also gave me a use for the POS flask. (I know others have recommended corn meal or semolina, but we didn't have either of those. Do now.) On top of that I placed the wad from the kit and a ball from the kit, with the sprue mark up. I rotated this into place and rammed the ball down. The rammer went to its full extension, hmmm, not going to try and take it out now. Rotated the cylinder to load a cap, the rotated it to one off the firing position and returned the hammer. After taking a deep breath I cocked the hammer and squeezed off my first shot. Got a reasonable cloud of smoke and a respectable boom. Think I even hit the target, though I don't exactly remember. Emboldened by my "success" I decided to remove the cylinder and load 5 chambers at one time with everything but the ball. Replaced the cylinder and loaded the balls. Just as I was getting ready to load the caps they called to clear all guns for a target check. I placed the caps and fired all 5, I think the first hit the bull, but I'm not sure where the rest went.
At that point I was informed by the range officer that all BP guns were restricted to single load only.:banghead: After the target check I loaded twice more with 20gr powder and 20gr flour but the ball still seemed to be way down and the ram fully extended. At that point I didn't want to keep single loading so I packed up and went home.
Here are the things I learned and some questions.
- I really need to find some place to shoot where I can load 5. The dealer where I bought my Neos has an indoor range and I think he said they allowed BP. I'll have to check that out, though it could get a bit expensive.
- I need to get an idea of what the sight picture is supposed to be. This is quite a bit different from anything else I have shot (ok, I mean my 10/22) and when I try to reason out what it should be I can't come up with a picture that wouldn't seem to have the muzzle point way low.
- Since I'll probably be sticking to the lighter loads I should order some of the thicker BigIron wads, and develop my loads around those. I was going to do that today but it seems they are closed for a week so I'll have to wait.
Anyway, thanks for reading my excessive posting. Hope to be around here for a while.