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Folding Stocks...useful or gimmick?
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People will tell you you can't aim, but there's no reason you can't point, and that's good enough at indoor ranges (7 yards or less). In fact, many folding stocks do not block the sights on your shotgun (mine does), so you can actually bring it up to eye level and aim, you just have to be able to manage the recoil.
So it is harder to aim, and it recoils more. Plus follow up shots (split times in my world) take longer.
People will tell you they're painful to shoot folded, but that's just not true in my experience, provided you have a proper grip.
My practice sessions run about 200-300 rounds in a day. Doing that with a PGO is a lesson in carpal tunnel.
People will tell you a folded shotgun is just for storing in a smaller space, and has not practical use, but they are easier to maneuver through confined spaces like doorways and hallways.
A good instructor can work with you for about fifteen minutes on movement with a long gun through cramped spaces to show you that that just isn't the case.
I guess I'm one of those so-called experts, but the only reason you have a folding stock is for storage, or in some very specialized uses, door breaching. That's why our custom shorty NFA shotguns use ACE folders. If you are actually going to use the shotgun as a weapon, use the stock.
Pistol grip only shotguns (PGOs) aren't useless, but they're pretty damn close.
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re: Mossbergs and Raptor Arms
We had a little group get together yesterday at the Range to do some shotty practice, primarily HD oriented.
3 Mossberg pumps, and a Remington 1100 Tactical.
Two guys (with longer arms ironically) using an AR-15 telestock type arrangement with a pistol grip.
Yours truly, with really short arms, was using the Hogue 12" LOP stock. I like being able to unlock the action without pulling the whole shotty back and flipping it around to get to the lever with non-dom' hand thumb (at least that's how these guys were doing it). The "long-arms" got great hits, and their Mossbergs held up just fine. I had a pretty decent day myself, got to do some patterning, grouping, emergency reload practice, put some 3" magnums downrange at HD distances, etc.
I'm not sure in the big scheme of things that a quality stock is diminished by the fact that it happens to fold or collapse. I'd suggest it has more to do with how it's used and the skill of the operator who uses it.
I prefer the more traditional fixed stock with a short LOP so I can actually reach the forend, and I do have side-saddle, surefire light so I'm not "tacticool" averse. But it's "tacticool" with PURPOSE, customized for my needs. I still need to drag my butt out to the range and work the platform, know it's capabilities and limitations with various loads, and know my capabilities and limitations with those same loads.
If you are looking for a LOP you can better manage, I'd suggest you consider all your options and if opportunity presents itself TRY BEFORE YOU BUY.
Good luck!!
CZ52'
We had a little group get together yesterday at the Range to do some shotty practice, primarily HD oriented.
3 Mossberg pumps, and a Remington 1100 Tactical.
Two guys (with longer arms ironically) using an AR-15 telestock type arrangement with a pistol grip.
Yours truly, with really short arms, was using the Hogue 12" LOP stock. I like being able to unlock the action without pulling the whole shotty back and flipping it around to get to the lever with non-dom' hand thumb (at least that's how these guys were doing it). The "long-arms" got great hits, and their Mossbergs held up just fine. I had a pretty decent day myself, got to do some patterning, grouping, emergency reload practice, put some 3" magnums downrange at HD distances, etc.
I'm not sure in the big scheme of things that a quality stock is diminished by the fact that it happens to fold or collapse. I'd suggest it has more to do with how it's used and the skill of the operator who uses it.
I prefer the more traditional fixed stock with a short LOP so I can actually reach the forend, and I do have side-saddle, surefire light so I'm not "tacticool" averse. But it's "tacticool" with PURPOSE, customized for my needs. I still need to drag my butt out to the range and work the platform, know it's capabilities and limitations with various loads, and know my capabilities and limitations with those same loads.
If you are looking for a LOP you can better manage, I'd suggest you consider all your options and if opportunity presents itself TRY BEFORE YOU BUY.
Good luck!!
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