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Former Marine expelled from University of Tampa for gun posession

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Chris B, Sep 25, 2007.

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  1. Chris B

    Chris B Member

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    A student and former Marine was expelled from the school I attend, the University of Tampa. Here is the story the school paper, "The Minaret" published.

    http://media.www.theminaretonline.c...Student.Discusses.Gun.Violation-2978236.shtml

     
  2. yesit'sloaded

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    So much for joining the army to protect your rights, this makes me sick.
     
  3. Freelance Tax Collector

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    Well you know how unstable combat veterans can be. I think we should take all combat veterans and put them into work camps, perhaps building a magnificent railroad or something, just so that our vulnerable and blissfully naive public won't have to be exposed to such unpleasentness.

    Man, who would want to have a gun anyway? With that kind of firepower, he could have easily surpassed the University of Texas shooter (which thankfully the police single-handedly brought to a stop without too much loss of human-resourc.... err... citizens).

    I think, comrades, that we should all do good to remember that
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
     
  4. yesit'sloaded

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    Straight from the mouth of MiniTruth eh?
     
  5. Prince Yamato

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    Because unlike ferrets, they're easier to conceal and don't leave turds on your pillow.
     
  6. jefnvk

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    There was his problem. Regardless of what the rule is, if you're breaking it, it is hardly a good idea to advertise it.

    Its not hard to get away with having a gun in your dorm room. It is when you advertise that you have it.
     
  7. Robert Hairless

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    An irony in this story is that the University of Tampa campus includes the old Tampa Bay Hotel, a magnificent structure built in 1891 by Henry Plant. Plant supported the Cuban exiles of that generation who wanted to overthrow the island's Spanish government.

    When the Spanish-American War began in 1898 the Tampa Bay Hotel became the headquarters for officers awaiting the signal to embark for Cuba. Theodore Roosevelt was among them. The grounds near the Tampa Bay Hotel were used as staging areas for American troops that went off to fight that war for Cuba's liberation from Spain, including the Rough Riders.

    And every single one of those military men had firearms--rifles as well as handguns--with them in, around, and near that hotel.

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    Before and after the Spanish-American War, guests of the Tampa Bay Hotel engaged in hunting wild game as one of the entertainments for which the hotel was noted while Plant owned it. The guests used guns.

    I don't mean to excuse that Marine for violating the university's rules, only to reflect on the irony of a beautiful old building that once was a symbol of liberty but now is symbolic of a university's values.

    (The photo above is from the University's Henry B. Plant Museum in the Tampa Bay Hotel. It shows the Rough Riders embarking for Cuba from Port Tampa.)
     
  8. wideym

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    Remember kids the only way to keep a secret is to tell one person and immediatly kill them. But seriously, showing a gun to anybody in a dorm for any reason is STUPID! If he had showed them a stash of weed then it would have been no problem.
     
  9. Geno
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    What you don't ask, don't tell, and don't show...others won't know. This ain't kinnygarden...we don't do "Show & Tell" with firearms. I'll be durned...perhaps there is something to that concept.

    On the Constitutional side, it's unadulterated horse doodoo that a man or woman cannot possess their firearms, especially safely stored on campus. I had my firearm on campus when we lived in married housing, during doctoral school. But, you can be darned certain I never spoke of it...period.
     
  10. Henry Bowman

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    Granted, having to fill out a 4473 makes firearms purchased from a dealer traceable, but why must the media (and gun owners) perpetuate this myth about registration (in free states like Florida)? It makes the unknowledgeable masses assume that it is "normal" and acceptable.
     
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    I'm just glad Tampa PD was there to keep everyone safe. Could you imagine what someone could do in a dorm with a gun? We must keep them out of dorms. If only Virginia Tech Police would have been so on top of things... :rolleyes:

    Seriously, I spent 4 years at the University of Florida and that's one of the main reasons I didn't live on campus. To me, he is probably one of the most qualified people in the dorm to have the gun. We really need to change that law. Guns should not be prohibited on any campus- End of story.
     
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    I don't see any "legal" content so far here so I'm moving it to General.
     
  13. AirForceShooter

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    His guns were "registered"?
    Who made that up?

    AFS
     
  14. TexasRifleman

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    Besides the legalities, if you are going to knowingly skirt the edge of the law, or even break it outright, it is best not to tell anyone.
     
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    While I don't agree with the school's policy, it is nice to have someone take personal responsibility for their actions. So rare these days, it seems.
     
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    "Legally registered." Another tour de force for our insightful, fact-checking news media. If they continue to reveal themselves to be this Butt-Stupid regarding firearms, there will come a time when I'll have to check out the bedroom window to confirm it if they report that the sun rose in the East this morning.
     
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    Was this a warrantless search?
     
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    Freelance writer here.

    Even if I wrote a piece that was technically accurate, the editor would "pinch" the sentences to shrink the word count. It's happened to me before with newsprint articles on technical subjects like motorcycles and such.

    A sentence that reads like:
    "I was in the wrong and the school had every right to expel me," he said, "but the weapon was purchased by me and all the appropriate ATF forms were filled out at the time of purchase. There would be no problem for authorities to verify that the weapon was mine."

    can easily, and necessarily (for an editor), get pinched to:
    "I was in the wrong and the school had every right to expel me," he said, while quickly adding that the gun was legally registered.

    The editor thinks nothing of it, and countless gunnies shake their heads in disgust and write letters of clarification that sound angry, indignant, and play into the gun nut stereotypes.

    But, if the editor does this enough times, they feel the story is reported and they've saved enough column inches to sell another ad.

    This is why I'm getting a crminal justice degree and transitioning into being a part-time writer for magazines and print features while working in the private sector of CJ.

    As for the article's subject matter: It's pretty basic law to understand that he was in the wrong. He even admitted it. But, that doesn't make it right.

    I've been trying to come up with a way to protest my school's policies, but can't come up with anything that won't make me look like Andrew Meyer.
    "Don't Taze Me Bro!" :D
     
  19. The Unknown User

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    Sorry, but he broke the law. That's what happens.
     
  20. TexasRifleman

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    Living in on campus housing often requires you to allow searches at the whim of the school so warrants don't mean much.
     
  21. yesit'sloaded

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    Yes, but the law broke the constitution, which is the SUPREME law of the land.
     
  22. Travis McGee

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    Two people can keep a secret, as long as one of them is dead.
     
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    Oh what a great school I attend. Glad they are keeping it safe for me since I have to leave my gun at home!
     
  24. dasmi

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    The moral of the story is, don't show anyone the gun you aren't suppose to have on campus.
     
  25. Hokkmike

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    Some aspects of this story sound a little suspicious to me. Sorry!
     
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