George Will on the power of the NRA

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"Small' NRA may have mighty influence on November election

By George F. Will

BILLBOARDS now seen in at least 10 key states show a prancing French poodle, its fur fancily clipped for show, wearing a pink ribbon and a blue Kerry-for-president sweater. The text says: "That dog don't hunt.' And: "For 20 years John Kerry has voted against sportsmen's rights.' As Election Day approaches, the National Rifle Association is clearing its throat, ready to roar.
By now, most of the persuading has been done and attention is turning to mobilization getting intense constituencies to the polls. Few are more intense than the NRA. If New England is Red Sox Nation, the NRA is a coast-to-coast nation within the nation.

The American Association of Retired Persons, with nearly 36 million members, is the nation's third largest organization (behind the Catholic Church and the American Automobile Association). The NRA has "only' 4 million adult members. Thirty states and the District of Columbia have smaller voting- age populations. And whereas just slightly more than 50 percent of age-eligible Americans have voted in recent elections (51 percent voted in 2000), about 95 percent of NRA members vote. Liberals who lament voter apathy should be careful what they wish for.

Each of the 4 million pays $35 in annual dues. Polls indicate that another 14 million Americans think they are NRA members and an additional 28 million think they are affiliated in some way with the NRA because of their membership in one or more of the 35,000 shooting and hunting clubs.

In the swing state of Wisconsin, which George W. Bush lost by 5,708 in 2000, but where this year he seems to be slightly ahead, there are, according to a Census Bureau survey, 591,000 hunters more than one-tenth of the population of approximately 5.5 million. In hotly contested Pennsylvania, there are 1.3 million hunters, about a million of whom take to the woods on opening day of deer season, when some schools and factories close.

Bill Clinton believes that advocating gun control cost Democrats 20 of the 52 House seats they lost in the 1994 elections that ended 40 years of Democratic control of the House. And appearing June 23 on "The Charlie Rose Show,' he said this about the defeat of Al Gore in 2000:

"The NRA beat him in Arkansas. The NRA and Ralph Nader stand right behind the Supreme Court in their ability to claim that they put George Bush in the White House. ... If I had known how big the NRA problem was, could I have gone down there and spent three days calling people on the phone and hollering people in and talking to them and turned it? Probably. ... I think the NRA had enough votes in New Hampshire, in Arkansas, maybe in Tennessee and in Missouri to beat us. And they nearly whipped us in two or three other places.'

Labor unions have awakened to the NRA's power. For example, a flier published in Marseilles, Ill., by Local 393 of the Laborers' International Union lists three Kerry virtues. The third is that he will "fix NAFTA' (the North American Free Trade Agreement). The second is that he "will continue to fight to protect overtime pay.' But at the top of the list first things first is: "Supports protecting our right to own a gun.'

Nationwide in 2000, gun ownership was a countervailing pull against union membership as a determinant of political sympathies: Union households with guns split 48 percent for Bush and 48 percent for Gore. In 2000, 80 percent of Tennessee union households had at least one firearm. In West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Michigan the percentages were 61, 60 and 55. Gore lost the first two states and might have lost the other two if he had not prudently stopped talking about gun control.

Some liberals who are no more respectful of the First Amendment than they are of the Second saw campaign finance reform as a way to inhibit the NRA from talking against gun control. Advocates of the McCain-Feingold bill for extending government regulation of political speech repeatedly mentioned the NRA as a group whose speech could be curtailed by complicating the process of financing political advocacy.

There are 170,000 precincts in America and the NRA says it has election volunteer coordinators in every one. Even on Manhattan's Upper West Side? In West Hollywood? Yes.

By Election Day the NRA will have sent out 15 million pieces of mail to susceptible men. And women. One in three women owns at least one gun. Hear them roar, in numbers too big to ignore.

George Will's e-mail address is [email protected] .
 
Ya gotta see it...

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http://www.nrapvf.org/media/pdf/doghunt.htm

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I agree. A standard poodle is a sight hound. It's an intelligent and capable dog that could hunt quite well, with proper training. Now a toy poodle or miniature poodle...
 
Having been raised in a household graced with the noble presence of an incredibly smart, strong and loyal grande standard poodle, who drove off the neighborhood bully on command, I'd say this ad was an affront to this spectacular breed of dog.

The indignity imposed on the poor creature to make it wear a Kerry sweater is unthinkable.

{previously posted elswhere re: this ad}
 
The poodle

I like the French allusion, and the ad does have the desired emotional impact. I fancy yellow Labrador Retrievers myself (esp. the big, slobbery ones, but my wife has a different opinion), and I have no interest in poodles. However, poodles were bred, I understand, as water retrievers, and the odd hair cut is mean to keep the chest and joints warm, and to keep the hind quarters from getting water logged.

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The best dog I ever had was an Afghan hound, another sight hound, great dogs, but with that hair forget hunting. She died last year and I've been thinking about getting a Standard poodle and training it to hunt. Every time I mention this to my friends, the room goes completely silent. It's as if I said I wanted to marry another dude or that I planned to vote for Kerry. They just look at me like I've lost my mind, then change the subject.

BTW: I've got nothing against small dogs. I have two pugs. Their nice little dogs, but hunting is not an option.
 
http://www.canismajor.com/dog/poodle.html

Unfortunately, as with all popular breed, puppy mills and backyard breeders are responsible for the proliferation of poorly bred examples of this bright, appealing dog. Puppy mill varieties, often sold through retail outlets, can be high-strung, fearful, aggressive, noisy, demanding, destructive, and neurotic.
If you're considering a poodle or any other kind of dog, please chek out the rescue organizations first.

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This is getting waaay off topic, but I rescued my Afghan from a puppy mill in NW Minnesota. She was a mess, and she was always a little messed up from not being properly socialized. We were lucky--she was healthy and lived to the age of 14. But we didn't have such good luck with a Rottweiler we rescued from an unscrupulous breeder. Another great dog, but lots of very expensive health problems. He died last year too, but he barely made the age of 9. It was a damned shame to lose such a good dog that young.

I second the suggestion to get a dog through a rescue operation.
 
I think S Roper has what they were going for.

To add to his thought, I think that aside from people who know dogs and/or the breed (which most people won't) they will see poodle and thing high maintance, french, delicate, and only for show. I have met poodles who are in the top 1% of the smartest dogs I have been around, but that really isn't a great comparison.
 
Back on topic...

I hope George Will is right. If he is, then we may re-convince the Democrats that gun control is a loser issue.

Then we may head off things like the "will you really resist when they come to take your guns" thread.
 
Sorry Guys! I have to add, I love dogs. My German Shepard is smart and loyal. I felt bad for the poodle.
 
Neighbors across the street have a miniature poodle that's an incredible retriever.

Border Collies are supposedly the most intelligent dog breed.

Poodles are number 2.
 
Polls indicate that another 14 million Americans think they are NRA members

Does anyone else find that kind of funny? The NRA has nearly 4 times as many people who believe they are members of an organization that people who are actually in it?:what:
 
I hope George Will is right. If he is, then we may re-convince the Democrats that gun control is a loser issue.

I think George is right. But I don't think anything but the voice of God ringing out from the sky would convince the Democrats that gun control is not a good thing.

To generalize to a dangerous extent, Democrats these days are big city people who regard themselves as part of their own small minority slice of America rather than as just plain Americans. They actually rely on others to protect them, cannot imagine fighting back when assaulted, believe that politicians are good hearted souls with the best interests of others at heart and think Teddy Kennedy is a wise elder statesman.

On the other hand, I know that I'm damned lucky to be an American and to hell with where my ancestors came from. I will protect myself, thank you very much, and if I'm attacked I will try to hurt my assailant badly; hell, I'll be trying to cripple him at a minimum, and if I kill him that's just so much the better. I believe that politicians are venal, egotistical, selfish and self interested people who have only their own interests at heart. And Teddy Kennedy is a pathetic old drunk who has killed more people with his car than I have with my whole gun collection. He is the poster boy for why whiskey is bad if you can't be moderate about your intake. He is also the world's best argument for term limits.

But I do believe George is right. The outrageous claims John Kerry is making about his support for the Second Amendment proves it.

By the way, any dog that isn't overbred (including almost all mutts) are damn fine animals if you treat them right.
 
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