Global tax on guns? Brazil, France propose international levy on arms sales

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Global tax on guns?
Brazil, France propose international levy
on arms sales to eliminate world hunger

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Posted: June 3, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Some world leaders at the G8 summit meeting are floating the idea of a global tax on arms sales, including – at French President Jacques Chirac's suggestion – a tax on gun purchases by individuals.

In a speech at the annual meeting of the "Group of Eight," or G8, Brazil's President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva pushed the arms-sales tax as a scheme whereby the world's wealthiest nations could fund efforts to eliminate world hunger, reports Bloomberg News.

The "Group of Eight" includes the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada, Japan and Russia.

Citing the Brazilian paper Folha de S. Paulo, Bloomberg reports Lula said such taxes would create "a global fund capable of giving food to those who are hungry and for creating the conditions to end the causes of hunger."

Calling the Brazilian leader's proposal "forceful and convincing," Chirac was reluctant to back a levy on weapons manufacturers in France and elsewhere, but suggested a global tax on firearms purchases made by individuals, said the report.

"Lula's idea is a simple one. People must be able to eat three times a day, and that is not the case today," Chirac added, according to Agence France-Presse. "This unacceptable situation must be debated."

Lula's speech containing the controversial proposal came after a meeting of leaders of 12 developing countries with the G-8. The Brazilian leader also suggested wealthy creditor nations could donate part of the debt payments they receive back into a global fund to relieve hunger.

Chirac later said the proposed tax on arms sales might serve as an alternative to the "Tobin tax," which has been floated previously as a possible global tax on currency transactions, according to a CNSNews.com report. "Perhaps a tax on the sale of weapons would be quite justified," Chirac said, according to CNSNews.com. "I'm very much in favor of studying this proposal. For the time being, that's all he's asked. There's lots of trade in weapons, and there's no doubt whatsoever that this trade attracts everyone's concern."

The very thought of a global tax on arms sales and possibly even on individual gun purchases is like walking on glass to many, who feel doubly threatened by a global tax and by another encroachment on private gun-ownership. Although many in public policy positions might downplay such concerns as overblown or even paranoid, global bodies do have a long, if rarely reported, history of trying to foster various sorts of international gun bans.

As far back as Sept. 24, 1999, U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan called on members of the Security Council to "tackle one of the key challenges in preventing conflict in the next century" – the proliferation and "easy availability" of small arms and light weapons, which Annan identified as the "primary tools of violence" in conflicts throughout the world. (Though the terms tend to be used interchangeably, the United Nations defines small arms as weapons designed for personal use, while light weapons are those designed for several persons operating as a crew. Together, they account for virtually every kind of firearm from revolvers, pistols, rifles, carbines and light machine guns all the way to heavy machine guns, grenade launchers, portable anti-aircraft and anti-tank guns, mortars up to 100 mm caliber, and land mines.)

"Even in societies not beset by civil war, the easy availability of small arms has in many cases contributed to violence and political instability," said Annan at that time. "Controlling that easy availability is a prerequisite for a successful peace-building process."

Talk is one thing, but the Security Council then unanimously adopted the "Report of the Group of Governmental Experts on Small Arms." The 26-member group's various recommendations, two dozen in all, add up to a comprehensive program for worldwide gun control, and call for a total ban on private ownership of "assault rifles." A few of the recommendations:


All small arms and light weapons which are not under legal civilian possession and which are not required for the purposes of national defense and internal security, should be collected and destroyed by States as expeditiously as possible.

All States should determine in their national laws and regulations which arms are permitted for civilian possession and the conditions under which they can be used.

All States should ensure that they have in place adequate laws, regulations and administrative procedures to exercise effective control over the legal possession of small arms and light weapons and over their transfer in order ... to prevent illicit trafficking.

States are encouraged to integrate measures to control ammunition ... into prevention and reduction measures relating to small arms and light weapons.

States should work toward ... appropriate national legislation, regulations and licensing requirements that define conditions under which firearms can be acquired, used and traded by private persons. In particular, they should consider the prohibition of unrestricted trade and private ownership of small arms and light weapons specifically designed for military purposes, such as automatic guns (e.g., assault rifles and machine-guns).
The report notes with approval countries like China that have enacted measures to "strengthen legal or regulatory controls." China reported that some 300,000 "illicit" guns were seized and destroyed by officials acting in response to "new and more stringent national regulations that have come into force ... on the control on guns within the country and on arms exports."

France, too, in 1998 "acted to reinforce governmental control over military and civilian arms and ammunition, and introduced more rigorous measures regulating the holding of arms by civilians."

A State Department official, requesting anonymity, has previously told WND "the United Nations will not dictate domestic gun control for any nation. They can make recommendations and nations can act on those recommendations as they see fit, but we will never have the United Nations telling countries what they should do."

Questioned about specific recommendations, he replied, "Those are just recommendations – and surprisingly, a number of countries, including the U.S., take them up on those recommendations. In fact, we support all 24 of those recommendations."
 
Like the government owned armlament outfits are going to tax themselves. Would someone pour ranch dressing on the french fruit salad Chirac.
 
The audacity of the man rises to stunnung heights:
Chirac was reluctant to back a levy on weapons manufacturers in France and elsewhere, but suggested a global tax on firearms purchases made by individuals, said the report.
Let's see...Frances thriving arms manufacturing industry would pay no taxes, but individual citizens able to buy small arems would each contribute to his slush fund, right? I wonder what country that would be...

If President Bush allows that piece of slime to ever touch him again, I hope he decks him. :fire:
 
The UN wants to impose taxes on me, to fix problems in another nation, as part of an overall effort to push massive gun control and disarmament?

:cuss: you.
 
This is France's attempt to play hardball after we disinvited the French Air Force from Red Flag, and we decided to avoid the Paris Air Show. The US presence at Paris draws a lot of people to the show, and by extension, gives French arms-makers more exposure to the world.
 
Memo to: Dubya
Memo From: An American
Date: Today
Subj: French Kissing

You have no doubt real politic reasons for doing kissy-kissy with the french. I applaud your ability to put aside personal afronts in favor of doing what is best for the country.

However, I must remind you there are American out here who are not inclined to do the kissy-kissy with France. France took steps to control US actions in the world. France is positioning itself as the counter force to the US on the world stage. We can not afford to the evidence that France is now a hostile country to the US.

Americans will accept real politik from a president they trust. They however would be much more comfortable if we saw the president strip bark off Chirac before the kissy-kissy starts.

Dubya, you'd be well-advised to inflict some public abuse on Chirac before getting nice.
 
In a speech at the annual meeting of the "Group of Eight," or G8, Brazil's President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva pushed the arms-sales tax as a scheme whereby the world's wealthiest nations could fund efforts to eliminate world hunger, reports Bloomberg News.

Aside from the fact that large, UN-run charities are comically ineffective (most of this money would, no doubt, end up contributing to the "Leopardskin Rolls Royce Seat Covers For Large Black Dudes In Funny Gold-Braid-Covered Hats" fund) can somebody explain why it is ethical to want me to cough up a bag of overpriced rice to ship to Absurdistan every time I buy a Bushmaster?

Tell me, Luiz, is a single mother of three who purchases a .38 for peace of mind since her second job at Waffle House lets out so late going to be expected to pony up the tax to help feed the poor big-eyed, starving children overseas, too?
 
Say after me, "Guns. Poverty. Guns. Poverty." Guns cause poverty, so gun owners must pay up. That's the homily. From paying up they will go, inevitably, to cries for repentance and re-education. No one (here) is fooled.
 
(A State Department official, requesting anonymity) "Questioned about specific recommendations, he replied, "Those are just recommendations – and surprisingly, a number of countries, including the U.S., take them up on those recommendations. IN FACT, WE SUPPORT ALL 24 OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS."

Indeed!? And just who is "we?"
 
When our troops come back from Iraq, they should stop off in France and use up any left over ammo. Yes, attack and bomb France. They are hostile enemies who fund and support terrorism.
 
Chirac was reluctant to back a levy on weapons manufacturers in France and elsewhere, but
suggested a global tax on firearms purchases made by individuals, said the report.

That's the one that stuck in my craw too. "I guess it's the "only if it doesn't affect me" principle that's kicking in here.
 
They all long, these oligarchs, for a "peaceable kingdom." Problem is, it's not peace, just quiescent repression, and it's not a society of free men but rather one of subjects.

Sometimes, yes, "civil wars" are the only means to justice.
 
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