Glock 30sf RSA failure

[Fastlane]

I was shooting at a local indoor range the other day. I was using my 5 or 6 year old Glock it has about 13 through 14 hundred rounds through it. All factory rounds no reloads or lead rounds.

At about 25 rounds the Glock failed to chamber the next round. I dropped the mag and checked making sure the gun had not chambered another round. After putting the Glock in my range bag I continued shooting with another Glock. It was Glock day for me at the range.

Cleaning the Glock the next day I found that the RSA spring the large spring toward the muzzle had slipped over the plastic washer at the front. This caused the failure to chamber the next round. This is the first failure that I ever had with any of my Glocks. Has anyone had this type of failure?

 

[L-2]

I haven't the specific problem/breakage as in the OP.
Download Glock's warranty form found here: https://us.glock.com/en/downloadable-materials or https://us.glock.com/-/media/global...dable-materials/glock-warranty-form.pdf?la=en
Fill out the form and send back the broken RSA.
Glock will likely send you a new RSA, but it may take 2-3 weeks.
Meanwhile, a new one can be ordered from an online supplier which may take from 2-7 days to receive if you don't want a G30SF laying around waiting for a part.

 

[Hartkopf]

I usually buy spares since they're so cheap but never had a failure in my limited time shooting. Supposed to be a 5000 round part so you didn't get your moneys worth out of that one.

 

[Fastlane]

Thanks guys for the information. I called Glock and spoke with Kelvin he is going to ship me a new RSA free. Can’t beat that for service and their phone support was very pleasant. No long wait times or phone transfers.

 

[Fastlane]

I started thinking about the RSA failure with my Glock. This has been my night stand gun sense I purchased it in 2013. I now have lost confidence with this Glock. Very low round count and it never has been used except at a indoor range with all factory ammo.

I called Glock back to see if the RSA they are sending me has been modified or improved sense 2013. The Glock technician said the RSA is the same as it was in 2013. With this information I decided to purchase a stainless steel RSA from Glockmeister. I will use both in the Glock to see which one works best.

The Glock will be used as a range gun and my CZ P01 is now my night stand gun.

 

[Robbins290]

well, being 7 years old. and 1400 rounds. I would fault the pistol. I was always told 5000 rounds or 5 years. Any pistol i have that is deemed a defense gun. Gets them replaced every 5 years. call paranoid or whatever you want. $20 bucks every year is cheap piece of mind. Duty and CCW pistols are changed every year, same with the ammo.

 

[Fastlane]

Robbin:

Thanks for the post. It’s not the cost or maintenance with the Glock it is the fact that the replacement part is the same as the failed part hence the lost of confidence. At this stage of my life I am giving most of my guns to family members. Don’t want or need to buy more just to try and find family that would appreciate them.

 

[dogtown tom]

So..........if your car had a flat tire after 1,400 miles and Toyota replaced it free would you lose confidence in your car? Relegate it to only trips to the corner store?

Good grief, it's a machine. Machines have parts. Parts occasionally break.

If Glock RSA's had a history of failures its pretty darn likely it would be all over the internet and likely involve a recall/replacement. It isn't and there wasn't.

Now you've gone and installed an aftermarket part.....the number one cause of problems in a Glock.
Good luck with that.

 

[Fastlane]

Tom:

If the tire had blow out and was well maintained yes I would have a problem with a tire of the same type and manufacturer. This type of failure has been documented with the RSA. It is not common but it does happen. I have two RSA on order one from Glock and another from Glockmeister. I will test both but till I’m comfortable and confident in the Glock it will remain an range gun

 

[crestoncowboy]

I've never had one do that nor seen one in a glock. I have seen a few that sheared off the nub at the muzzle end and the spring wasnt captured but the guns still ran, just had to be careful when disassembling. I have spares for all my guns but for one to fail and cause a malfunction is incredibly rare. The glocks costed 7-10 bucks. Some guns RSA costed 10x that. I have seen an HK fail in the same manner as you describe and they are metal rods. All my glocks have stock RSA except one 6 inch G20 that has a heavier spring. I wouldnt worry about one fluke. The Glock design is one of the more heavily tested (although less so in the 29/30) in all the shooting world so it's certainly not likely to happen again.

 

[Robbins290]

Its over 5 years old. i would not call it defective. Its a worn consumable. Replace with the same thing and move one. I no longer have my G30 ge3. but it was rode hard. like 100-200 rounds a week hard for 3 years. Replaced the RSA every year, it went past my rule of 5000 rounds tho. Not one of them has broke. Same goes with the other glocks i have. I would call this a odd event, replace it with a factory spring and carry on with confidence. I have not heard of problems with the RSA on a glock. Like someone said here. There would be posts and posts about it. Its a machine. things will break. Take a car for example. Out of 10,000 cars, 1 blew a transmission for some unknown reason. Does not mean all the transmissions are defective.

 

[Fastlane]

Cowboy:
your RSA that had the nub at the muzzle sheared off is what happened with my RSA and the large spring was no longer captured causing the Glock to not chamber the next round. After browsing the internet this happens not often but it does happen. Midway had the RSA for 16 or 17 dollars will buy a couple more and see how they work. Thanks for the reply.

 

[crestoncowboy]

your RSA that had the nub at the muzzle sheared off is what happened with my RSA and the large spring was no longer captured causing the Glock to not chamber the next round.

Usually if the muzzle end nub that contacts the slide gets broke the gun runs fine. Just like any non-captured spring. I used a Glock 27 for a few hundred rounds this way. Some aftermarket springs are actually not captured.

 

[Fastlane]

Cowboy

That is a good point about the captured guide rod is now functioning like non-captured guide rod. My problem was that the Glock would not feed the next round.

Im retired and now have time to spend more time at the range. I have a RSA coming from Glock and a stainless steel RSA coming from Glockmeister. I will spend some time at the range to see which one works the best.

 

[crestoncowboy]

I have used an ISMI stainless rod in a competition gun for lighter loads and my 10mm for heavier loads. They are ok. But the screw that captures the spring isnt really big enough and it turns into an uncaptured setup half the time.

 

[Fastlane]

As soon as I receive the RSA and put some rounds down range I will give my thoughts on the difference. My thoughts will have to be taken will the knowledge that I’m not any type of expert on the use of firearms.

 

[94045]

I started thinking about the RSA failure with my Glock. This has been my night stand gun sense I purchased it in 2013. I now have lost confidence with this Glock. Very low round count and it never has been used except at a indoor range with all factory ammo.

I called Glock back to see if the RSA they are sending me has been modified or improved sense 2013. The Glock technician said the RSA is the same as it was in 2013. With this information I decided to purchase a stainless steel RSA from Glockmeister. I will use both in the Glock to see which one works best.

The Glock will be used as a range gun and my CZ P01 is now my night stand gun.

Any part in any gun can fail at any time. Flaws do occur. The Glock 30 SF was an issue gun for Plains Clothes Officers in some departments. If they were routinely having RSA Failure it would have been redesigned a long time ago. I wouldn't think twice to replace it with another OEM Part and keep right on using it.

 

[Buzznrose]

Thanks guys for the information. I called Glock and spoke with Kelvin he is going to ship me a new RSA free. Can’t beat that for service and their phone support was very pleasant. No long wait times or phone transfers.

Glock will replace any part that fails any time. 50K rounds and your slide cracks? Send it in and they will replace it...free...no questions asked.


Yes, their CS is that good!