If you know of any GOOFY GUN LAWS (gun laws that don't make sense) please tell what they are. I'll bet there are a few. I'll get it started with this. I own a Contender (14 inch barrel) with a pistol grip. If I put a rifle stock on this it becomes illegal (GOOFY).
Goofy Gun Laws
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deej
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Treylis
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Haha, 922(r) comes immediately to mind.
Bruce in West Oz
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If I get a scope sent to me from the USA, it's "optical equipment" -- no problem.
If it has a pair of mounts on it, it's a "firearm part" -- B-I-G problem!
If it has a pair of mounts on it, it's a "firearm part" -- B-I-G problem!
cropcirclewalker
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Lord Bentsen made me take the folding bayonett off the SKSs that I used to sell.
I would just hand it to the buyer and tell him that I was throwing in a free tent peg.
I would just hand it to the buyer and tell him that I was throwing in a free tent peg.
cropcirclewalker
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Kansas prohibits concealed carry.
Open carry is legal out in the country, but many munis have prohibited it.
Had a state trooper tell me once, "Your pistol on the dash is legal out here, but when you get to town, you should put it in the glove box.
I thought he was laying a trap.
I looked it up on the net. He's right. In KS in the glove box is NOT concealed.
Open carry is legal out in the country, but many munis have prohibited it.
Had a state trooper tell me once, "Your pistol on the dash is legal out here, but when you get to town, you should put it in the glove box.
I thought he was laying a trap.
I looked it up on the net. He's right. In KS in the glove box is NOT concealed.
Mr. James
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they ARE all goofy
Virginia Code section 18.2-308(J)(3):
"No person shall carry a concealed handgun onto the premises of any restaurant or club as defined in § 4.1-100 for which a license to sell and serve alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption has been granted by the Virginia Alcoholic Beverage Control Board under Title 4.1 of the Code of Virginia; however, nothing herein shall prohibit any sworn law-enforcement officer from carrying a concealed handgun on the premises of such restaurant or club or any owner or event sponsor or his employees from carrying a concealed handgun while on duty at such restaurant or club if such person has a concealed handgun permit."
But open-carry in "any restaurant or club ... for which a license to sell and serve alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption has been granted" is completely legal.
GOOFY!
Virginia Code section 18.2-308(J)(3):
"No person shall carry a concealed handgun onto the premises of any restaurant or club as defined in § 4.1-100 for which a license to sell and serve alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption has been granted by the Virginia Alcoholic Beverage Control Board under Title 4.1 of the Code of Virginia; however, nothing herein shall prohibit any sworn law-enforcement officer from carrying a concealed handgun on the premises of such restaurant or club or any owner or event sponsor or his employees from carrying a concealed handgun while on duty at such restaurant or club if such person has a concealed handgun permit."
But open-carry in "any restaurant or club ... for which a license to sell and serve alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption has been granted" is completely legal.
GOOFY!
Black Snowman
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I looked it up at Packing.org and it looks like it's up to the municipalities and counties. Man, I traval through 3 municipalites just on the way to work. I'm sure at least one of them prohibits it. Time to go digging through the paperwork.
geekWithA.45
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NJ's definition of firearms includes BB guns.
To buy a bb gun in NJ, you need a full blown FID.
To buy a bb HANDGUN in NJ, you need a full blown FID, and a Pistol Purchase permit.
I ???? you not.
To buy a bb gun in NJ, you need a full blown FID.
To buy a bb HANDGUN in NJ, you need a full blown FID, and a Pistol Purchase permit.
I ???? you not.
GunGeek
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Live in an Apartment or Condo building in Florida? You can legally have a loaded gun in your apartment, you can legally have a loaded gun in the glove box of your car.......... But there is no way to legally get it from your home to your car or vise versa, loaded or unloaded unless you have a CCW.
scout26
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Not Necessarily a Stupid Gun Law......
Possessing a Nuclear Weapon (either concealed or open carry) in Oak Park, IL will get you slapped with a $500 fine.
The village code however, makes no mention of what the fine would be for actually detonating one within the village limits.
Yes, I did call the city clerk's office after seeing the sign "Oak Park is a Nuclear Free Zone" and inquired. The nice lady hung up on me after I asked question #2 , but the internet is a wonderful thing.
Possessing a Nuclear Weapon (either concealed or open carry) in Oak Park, IL will get you slapped with a $500 fine.
The village code however, makes no mention of what the fine would be for actually detonating one within the village limits.
Yes, I did call the city clerk's office after seeing the sign "Oak Park is a Nuclear Free Zone" and inquired. The nice lady hung up on me after I asked question #2
, but the internet is a wonderful thing.
Zundfolge
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Yet if one choosed to illegally carry concealed is just a misdemeanor ... and since concealed means concealed no police should know about it unless you had to use it (in which case the fine and confiscation of the firearm are the least of your worries).
Not that I would ever recommend that you break even the most minor of laws!
Frankly I'm with Buy Guns on this one ... they are all goofy.
Bruce in West Oz
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whm1974
If I remember correctly what my gunsmith told me, the mounts by themselves are just regarded as "machine parts" — no problem.
Incidentally, in some states of Australia, you can only carry a firearm in a vehicle, disassembled, unloaded, in a locked box which is in turn securely chained or otherwise fastened to your car. Farmers going from one part of their farm to another, using a public road, even just crossing over it from one side to the other, have to comply with this rule.
In some clubs, because of state laws, shooters between details can not put their rifles or shotguns in a rack; they have to be locked away "securely" in a vehicle between shooting.
It's illegal for me to possess ammo (or even unprimed brass for that matter) for a firearm type I don't have on my licence — for me to be caught with, say, a fired .308 case would be an offence, because I don't have a .308 on my licence.
It's illegal for me to tell my wife where I have hidden the keys to my gun safe. The court has ruled that if she knows that, she is deemed to be "in possession" of my firearms — which is, of course, highly illegal for both her and me.
ALL firearms, even 500-year-old antiques, have to be stored in a safe/gun cabinet or "strongroom". If you want them on display, you have to have them rendered "inoperable". (Read: welded solid or a steel plug hammered into the barrel; thus, naturally, destroying any historical value they once had)
An air-operated arm is ruled as a "firearm". BB guns and airsoft are prohibited weapons. Paintball is illegal.
Enough??
If I remember correctly what my gunsmith told me, the mounts by themselves are just regarded as "machine parts" — no problem.
Incidentally, in some states of Australia, you can only carry a firearm in a vehicle, disassembled, unloaded, in a locked box which is in turn securely chained or otherwise fastened to your car. Farmers going from one part of their farm to another, using a public road, even just crossing over it from one side to the other, have to comply with this rule.
In some clubs, because of state laws, shooters between details can not put their rifles or shotguns in a rack; they have to be locked away "securely" in a vehicle between shooting.
It's illegal for me to possess ammo (or even unprimed brass for that matter) for a firearm type I don't have on my licence — for me to be caught with, say, a fired .308 case would be an offence, because I don't have a .308 on my licence.
It's illegal for me to tell my wife where I have hidden the keys to my gun safe. The court has ruled that if she knows that, she is deemed to be "in possession" of my firearms — which is, of course, highly illegal for both her and me.
ALL firearms, even 500-year-old antiques, have to be stored in a safe/gun cabinet or "strongroom". If you want them on display, you have to have them rendered "inoperable". (Read: welded solid or a steel plug hammered into the barrel; thus, naturally, destroying any historical value they once had)
An air-operated arm is ruled as a "firearm". BB guns and airsoft are prohibited weapons. Paintball is illegal.
Enough??
hi,
In Hungary (European Union member state) you need a Firearm Permit+CCW for possess and carry a gas-alarm gun, which shoots nothing but tear gas. But you can get any number of cap'n'ball revolvers without any licence.
A gun shop here is allowed to sell a rubber baton or a tonfa ONLY for Military, LEO, and security companies.
But we can sell telescopic steel batons (ASP) for anyone, without even age restrictions.
It is illegal to carry any tear gas or pepperspray if it is above 20 gramms (2/3 ozs), except you are LEO etc.
But there is no restriction on how many gas cans you are allowed to carry simultaneously.
And they forget to rule, what are the allowed tear gases, so theoretically Osama could legally carry 100 cans of 20 gramm lewisit or other deadly substance here)
In Hungary (European Union member state) you need a Firearm Permit+CCW for possess and carry a gas-alarm gun, which shoots nothing but tear gas. But you can get any number of cap'n'ball revolvers without any licence.
A gun shop here is allowed to sell a rubber baton or a tonfa ONLY for Military, LEO, and security companies.
But we can sell telescopic steel batons (ASP) for anyone, without even age restrictions.
It is illegal to carry any tear gas or pepperspray if it is above 20 gramms (2/3 ozs), except you are LEO etc.
But there is no restriction on how many gas cans you are allowed to carry simultaneously.
And they forget to rule, what are the allowed tear gases, so theoretically Osama could legally carry 100 cans of 20 gramm lewisit or other deadly substance here
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armoredman
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Good gravy, move to AZ, good laws and plenty of room!
tarrigoni
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Bruce,
with all those laws, I'm sure the crime rate has dropped to nil, right?
Right??
with all those laws, I'm sure the crime rate has dropped to nil, right?
Right??
tarrigoni
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um, I don't think many illegal immigrants get hunted down in AZ, although you may be of the wrong nationality to blend in.
I'd say requiring a CCW holder to carry $500 in cash at all times is beyond "goofy" and into "moronic as well as discriminatory, smacking of the old poll tax."
Requiring a $200 tax and legal hoops to be jumped through for shaving 1/4" off a barrel or stock isn't goofy, it's stupid. Sending people to prison, or killing them and their families, for not paying it isn't goofy, it's criminal.
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Requiring a $200 tax and legal hoops to be jumped through for shaving 1/4" off a barrel or stock isn't goofy, it's stupid. Sending people to prison, or killing them and their families, for not paying it isn't goofy, it's criminal.
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benEzra
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Putting an ergonomic pistol-grip stock on a self-loading rifle is OK by Federal law. Putting a screw-on recoil reducer on the muzzle of a self-loading rifle is OK. Putting BOTH on the same rifle is a felony. (Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994.)
If you have an unloaded, trigger-locked hunting rifle in a locked case in the back seat of your car, driving on a public road within 1/5 mile of any property owned by a school is a felony, even if that road is the only route that leads to the property where you hunt, UNLESS you have a state-issued permit to carry a handgun (yes, a handgun). (Gun Free School Zones Act.)
Giving your son a family-heirloom hunting rifle as a present for graduating from medical school is a felony if he does not reside in the same state you do, UNLESS you first transfer the gun to a Federal Firearms Licensee and your son fills out a Federal Form 4473 and undergoes a NCIS background check. (Gun Control Act of 1968, as amended.)
If you get a divorce in a state that issues routine temporary restraining orders to both parties as a safety precaution, and you and your spouse both own firearms, you both commit felonies UNLESS you temporarily transfer possession of your firearms to someone else until the divorce is complete.
If there is a firearm in your house and you take one of your spouse's prescription allergy pills during a sneezing fit, you have committed a federal felony, with a mandatory five-year sentence (drug crime while in possession of a firearm).
Putting a a black plastic stock on an American-made Ruger 7.62x39mm self-loading rifle is OK, but putting a black plastic stock on a Russian-made SKS 7.62x39mm self-loading rifle could be a felony if the rifle was manufactured after 1954. (27 CFR 922, paragraph r, assembly of a rifle that would be prohibited from importation in that configuration, since this would be altering the rifle from its "original military configuration" and thereby eliminating its C&R exemption.) Putting a receiver-cover scope mount on the same rifle is OK if the rifle was manufactured in 1953, but could be a felony if the rifle was manufactured in 1955.
You own a SAR-1 7.62x39mm self-loading rifle, and the trigger pull is rough. Replacing the trigger group with a trigger group stamped "made in U.S.A." is legal. Replacing the trigger group with an identical trigger group stamped "made in Canada" would be a felony. (27 CFR 922, paragraph r, violation of the parts count rule.)
If you have an unloaded, trigger-locked hunting rifle in a locked case in the back seat of your car, driving on a public road within 1/5 mile of any property owned by a school is a felony, even if that road is the only route that leads to the property where you hunt, UNLESS you have a state-issued permit to carry a handgun (yes, a handgun). (Gun Free School Zones Act.)
Giving your son a family-heirloom hunting rifle as a present for graduating from medical school is a felony if he does not reside in the same state you do, UNLESS you first transfer the gun to a Federal Firearms Licensee and your son fills out a Federal Form 4473 and undergoes a NCIS background check. (Gun Control Act of 1968, as amended.)
If you get a divorce in a state that issues routine temporary restraining orders to both parties as a safety precaution, and you and your spouse both own firearms, you both commit felonies UNLESS you temporarily transfer possession of your firearms to someone else until the divorce is complete.
If there is a firearm in your house and you take one of your spouse's prescription allergy pills during a sneezing fit, you have committed a federal felony, with a mandatory five-year sentence (drug crime while in possession of a firearm).
Putting a a black plastic stock on an American-made Ruger 7.62x39mm self-loading rifle is OK, but putting a black plastic stock on a Russian-made SKS 7.62x39mm self-loading rifle could be a felony if the rifle was manufactured after 1954. (27 CFR 922, paragraph r, assembly of a rifle that would be prohibited from importation in that configuration, since this would be altering the rifle from its "original military configuration" and thereby eliminating its C&R exemption.) Putting a receiver-cover scope mount on the same rifle is OK if the rifle was manufactured in 1953, but could be a felony if the rifle was manufactured in 1955.
You own a SAR-1 7.62x39mm self-loading rifle, and the trigger pull is rough. Replacing the trigger group with a trigger group stamped "made in U.S.A." is legal. Replacing the trigger group with an identical trigger group stamped "made in Canada" would be a felony. (27 CFR 922, paragraph r, violation of the parts count rule.)
PromptCritical
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In Guam, it is illegal to possess a pistol with a barrel over 12" in length.
In Kali, my Walther P-22 is an "Assault Weapon"
Why is it if I add a stock to a pistol it becomes a "short barreled Rifle," but if I cut the stock off of a pistol gripped rifle, it does not become a "long barreled pistol?"
In Kali, my Walther P-22 is an "Assault Weapon"
Why is it if I add a stock to a pistol it becomes a "short barreled Rifle," but if I cut the stock off of a pistol gripped rifle, it does not become a "long barreled pistol?"
Oleg Volk
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Mufflers on cars are mandatory, mufflers on guns are restricted...where's a lawsuit by OSHA on behalf of people with hearing loss?
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