grohmann knives

[CRUCIBLEFOOL]

While looking for the Grohmann Knife web site I found this forum and read a closed thread. I was quite disapointed by some of the remarks concerning Grohmann knives. While some knives may look similair design is mostly based on function and form making someknives look simaliar. Grohmann has been a manufacturer of knives for over 50 years I CANT IMAGINE THEM COPYING SOMEONE ELSES PATENT OR DESIGN .
I have used many of their knives from cooks to folding and belt knives and not been disappointed. They run a family business in a small rural town paying good wages to local craftsmen. Their turquoise handles are works of art.They have beena supplier of combat knives to the Canadian armed forces for a number of years. At work quite a few of our our Seaman (deckhands ) wear Yatchsmans knives and Marlin spikes, I have seen some over 20 years old and still in good shape. Please before you pass judement on them at least look at their web site.

http://www.grohmannknives.com/index2.html

As for questions concerning steel quaility and flaking of the edge The harder the steel the harder it is to sharpen,this means it also keeps its edge longer these increases are paid for by making the steel brittle and become prone to flaking of the edge. a softer steel will sharpen easily but dull faster. Depending on the use I will change the angle of the cutting edge to suit the purpose of a knife from opening my beans when I forget a can opener to fileting fresh atlantic salmon for the BB-Q. Treat a tool with respect and it will serve you in kind. I sharpen my knives on Norton / Pike water stones 1000 / 4000 and finish on 8000 with a test shave on my arm.


Courage is not the absence of fear but the willingness to proceed in spite of it.

 

[auschip]

I would need to see a link, but the only locked thread I could find mentioning Grohman knives was a rip on Cold Steel for making a copy of the boatman knives.

 

[CWL]

I CANT IMAGINE THEM COPYING SOMEONE ELSES PATENT OR DESIGN

Since knives have been used for thousands of years by billions of people, I'm pretty sure that most knife patterns have been in use for much of this time. Who's to say the original 'inventor' really was.

This is different than companies who purposely try to mislead or counterfeit a brand name.

 

[CRUCIBLEFOOL]

Auschip It wasnt my intent to challenge someone on my first thread so I tried not to be direct. Most of the info I saw on Grohmann Knives was incorrect down to the spelling of the name I just want to provide everyone with the correct info so they can make informed choices.

 

[JShirley]

I'm really not sure which thread you're referencing, but welcome to THR.

John

 

[alaskanativeson]

I have an original Grohmann's knife with a carbon steel blade. I'm generally not a fan of stainless for knives (although S30V and 154 are doing a good job of persuading me so far) and this knife is great. The only complaint I have is that I think the Army handle would fit my hand better.

 

[bikerdoc]

Welcome,
There are a lot of unsubstanciated opinions on the internet from armchair wannabe commandos, the knife guys at THR wont tell you wrong. Me, I know nothing of that brand, but you got some responses from some of the guys I respect the most on this board.

 

[SeekHer]

I've posted elsewhere that I've got the complete collection of their blades in both flat and regular grind with wood handles and regular grind with stag handles.

They have been a featured exhibit in the Museum of Modern Art for decades.

Original posting by CWL
Since knives have been used for thousands of years by billions of people, I'm pretty sure that most knife patterns have been in use for much of this time. Who's to say the original 'inventor' really was.

Some knife styles are known to specific makers, Lyle, Loveless, Gil Hibbin, KA-BAR but not Bowie. The Canadian Knife is one of them and if imitation is the sincerest form of flattery then D.H. Russell is happy as Cold Steel, Bark River and a few other makers have made their version, exact design/dimension but different materials, of his Canadian Knife.

From the A.G. Russell website:

In the late 1950's, D.H. Russell, owner of a cutlery store in Toronto, designed The Original Canadian Belt Knife. Demand for this new design was so great that he brought an experienced cutler from Czechoslovakia to make the knives. Rudolf Grohmann, and his family came to Canada, founded Grohmann Knives, of Pictou, Nova Scotia, and have produced all of the D.H. Russell Belt Knives from the beginning.

Their Bird & Trout is my one of my usual daily belt carry knives as its design and size make it seem less intimidating for some reason. They are excellent knives that can take a beating, hold an edge for a long time and are fairly easy to resharpen--besides all that, they're inexpensive!

 

[CRUCIBLEFOOL]

Tks Guys Ghromann has been vindicated !!! SEEKHER you mention taking a beating and sharpening. I have seen a skinner a freind sent to be repaired it had a CHUNK taken out of the blade where he twisted it in a leg joint to pop the joint. When the knife was returned you couldnt see the repair best part was no charge. I am currently waiting on delivery of two yatchman sets engraved and stamped with Canadian Coast Guard crests anyone that can supply a Goverment PO gets 50% off !!!

 

[snow]

I have the boat knife and it is great. It has now skinned two deers, 5 raccoons, prepared dinner cutting veggies, and quatering meat countless times.

 

[CWL]

Hi SeekHer,

I'm not trying to disparage the Canadian Knife design or DH Russell (I own and love mine), but I do see similar blade geometries in other knives such as the colonial Roach Belly knife and even the Nessmuk. I've seen leaf-blade designs used in Bronze Age knives in museums. In these cases, similar designs get reinvented because they have historically been efficient geometries.

I am trying to separate-out people who purposely are trying to "rip off" a design by counterfeiting the brand or misleading buyers.