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The venturi shoulder on the rifle case looks like a Weatherby case design.
Most likely a 25-06 fired in a .257 Weatherby.
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Most likely a 25-06 fired in a .257 Weatherby.
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"The venturi shoulder on the rifle case looks like a Weatherby case design."
That's exactly what I was going to say when I came here to post, but got sidetracked by bunnielab's images.
That is the very distinctive shoulder of the Weatherby cartridges. The difference of about .04" in case diameter at the head end of the .25-06 and the .257 Wby Magnum might account for the splitting.
The measurement of the case in the image tends to bear this out.
That's exactly what I was going to say when I came here to post, but got sidetracked by bunnielab's images.
That is the very distinctive shoulder of the Weatherby cartridges. The difference of about .04" in case diameter at the head end of the .25-06 and the .257 Wby Magnum might account for the splitting.
The measurement of the case in the image tends to bear this out.
With that shoulder I am thinking 257 Weatherby. Once!Interesting post.
I have a piece of found brass that has quite a story to tell. I found it on the ground at my range. It was a .25-06 round that was shot through the wrong gun.
I have no idea what chamber it was fired in, other then "the wrong one".
That 44 mag case is very curious. There are some very interesting ideas. RC's forensic speculation on the primer and headspace is probably as reasonable as can be made. Regardless, someone is really pushing the envelope on this one. They are going to pay big time when that 44 rifle...pistol...revolver turns into a grenade.
Eyes and ears protection folks. Because you can be Saint Peter righteous with your reloading but the guy beside you may not be.
Sorry Mal H. Your 257 Weatherby posted as I was typing my response. The extractor probably held the cartridge face up against the bolt face allowing primer strike. Then...kflash. Hope the guy was wearing glasses. That's an awful lot of gas pressure bleeding back into a bolt/receiver housing!
I can't tell from the picture but the casing head may have held enough back to not cause a catastrophic mag well blowout.Bexar
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It is really cool that you guys can ID the chamber just by a picture. I went and looked up a picture of a .257 Weatherby and it sure does look like that is what happened.
It was laying right next to a bench and the range is kept pretty clean so I guess it must have been pretty recent. I looked around for more and didn't see any so I guess whoever did it must have learned his lesson.
It was laying right next to a bench and the range is kept pretty clean so I guess it must have been pretty recent. I looked around for more and didn't see any so I guess whoever did it must have learned his lesson.
If I removed a WW case from my 44 Remington Mag that looks like the case on the right, I would put it all away, go home and start over.
I have tested a few rifles with test loads that came close, case head expansion, loose primer pockets and flat heads. Everything about the case on the right says excessive pressure, it is like adding acid and water, when adding it is not a good time to get confused.
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I have tested a few rifles with test loads that came close, case head expansion, loose primer pockets and flat heads. Everything about the case on the right says excessive pressure, it is like adding acid and water, when adding it is not a good time to get confused.
F. Guffey
I was at one of our local chain stores here in Houston several years back and they have long gun ammo out on the floor for customer selection. This obviously stuck on himself business salesman who must have been recently invited on an end of season deer hunt was shopping for a box of ammo for his borrowed rifle. The clerk came over and the guy told the clerk he was looking for a box of .270 ammo. The indifferent (kid) clerk handed him a box of .270 Winchester. By some miracle as the guy was leaving he asked the kid if Weatherby was a good rifle because the guy he borrowed it from had told the newbie he might sell him the gun if he liked it. I butted in about the difference and the kid acted like I'd asked him to mow my yard for free and walked off. No interest whatsoever in his job. The business salesman listened for a minute and I suggested he take his new/borrowed rifle making sure it was unloaded to one of the better gun store chains that employed people that could help him determine his exact caliber as Weatherby chambers rifles in both .270 Winchester and .270 Weatherby. He was still arrogantly indifferent until I said, "Blow up", and then he started to listen. Hope he did and hope he got his deer.
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If it's a reload and it appears to be, I wonder if the guy used a standard large pistol primer and not a large pistol magnum primer?
I am going to look up cup thickness to see if there is a difference.
Nope...pretty much .020 inch cup thickness for both.
Bexar
I am going to look up cup thickness to see if there is a difference.
Nope...pretty much .020 inch cup thickness for both.
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That would make no difference anyway.
The factorys & handloaders loaded .44 Magnum with standard Lg Pistol primers for years before Magnum primers were invented.
I still do in fact.
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The factorys & handloaders loaded .44 Magnum with standard Lg Pistol primers for years before Magnum primers were invented.
I still do in fact.
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