HAND PAIN > tell me about it.

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I've seen a trend the last 20 years. Folks complaining about hand pain, recoil, rubs my skin raw, OOO it hits my thumb, or OMG the trigger slap hurts me.....

I once had a old man in my life. A shooter, Smith and a lover of all things that go bang. He use to tell me. " Boy it ain't the gun,,,, it's you " Of all the folks that had a part in teaching me to shoot as I look for new instructors. He taught me the most. He taught me body mechanics. Football, Dancing, Riding motorcycles, Racing cars and bikes. He taught me body mechanics. That made the others possible.

As for my hands? There beat to <deleted>. They have arthritis laid deep in the joints. And Author is in my hip's, knees and back. I had a Ramset K-boom in my right hand. Wife still pulls shrap from my finger's every week. The K-boom was almost 30 years ago. Both collar bones have been busted, once both at once. <<< That sucked! I have a belly button hernia the size of a grapefruit that will hopefully get it's 2nd fix this month.

I'm 50 years old and have not regretted a thing. I've been on the net so long I remember $500 connects to to be a part of monochrome at 1200 baud. Face to face relationships and folks never complained at hand pain. Never!

Now it's like the <deleted> of American Shooters. It has to fit, It can't hurt and I have to follow up faster than flash himself.

It's like we are seeing the designer gun crowd change a evolving world. A 1911 can't rattle any more. A Smith should lock up like a Colt. But neither owner really wants to feed them max mags. The Colt cost to much or the Smith is junk. But there is always,,, it hurts me. Whats up with the USA shooter now days?

My 54 year old wife can now shoot major hots out of her 60-Pro better than most men I know.

What is up with the cry baby men now days????????
 
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For me, full house loads out of my GP100 just aren't fun to shoot. I can load it up with 296 and get all the heads to turn at the range, but enjoy it? Nope.

But then, I'm probably not as tough as you. ;)
 
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Does it really take a iron man to shoot real ammo out of a so called tank revolver? Forget me. Are you softer than a 130lb 5'2" woman like my wife that enjoy's full house mags out of a little j-frame thats 54 years old and eptilcitic?<<<sp>... That has learned to shoot in the dark and not spaz out.
 
You can learn to ignore pain and work around the warning signs your body gives you. Then you end up an arthritic old man before your time. Pain is nature's warning system.

If a handgun hurts to shoot, find another one and move on. There are more comfortable guns that will still stop the bad guys and not tear on your body. A few shots with a .357 to watch jugs explode is fun. Then it is time to return to firing my 9mm or .38spl+P. No discomfort is necessary and I can still drop a bad guy plenty fast if need be.

Taking unnecessary abuse is not a sign of strength. It is a sign of many things but not strength. Wanting a gun that actually fits together is not a bad thing. If a guy wants a super tight gun for bullseye matches that is his choice. He isn't less of a man because he persues a high price sport with high priced toys.

Before anybody says I feel that way because I'm not tough enough, let me put out some facts. I broke both arms at the same time. I dislocated my shoulder playing football, I have broken both hands multiple times in fights, and I nearly lost my arm due to an industrial accident. I laid in my hospital bed and had my second arm surgery with no anesthesia because an intern botched the first one, and a nurse didn't follow orders.

I know about getting knocked down and getting back up. I also know that needless wear and tear leads to an earlier decrease in the quality of life.

Give me my super comfortable CZ P-07 any day of the week. It will drop a bad guy just as quick as any other gun. Plus, it doesn't add any real wear and tear to my body. As a matter of fact I'll probably sell my 3" .38spl and replace it with a second CZ 9mm. They are easier to shoot, they stress my arms less, and they get the job done.
 
They say, "You're only as old as you feel."
Unfortunately I'm not 65 but more often than not anymore I sure feel that old.
I'm 28 with trashed knees, a right hip that can just pop out of socket, a bad left elbow, and two hands with arthritis.
Don't get me wrong, I'll ignore all that to go out and go hunting.
I'll ignore my hands and elbow to go shoot too.
I personally love guns that will knock me back a few paces.
Nothing better than shooting a .357, .44, and .45-70 loaded to the gills.
I like shooting my .338 WM with a case full of powder.
But sometimes enough is enough and I have to leave the range or the field because I just can't take it.
Once a few months ago I had to pack up my stuff from the range with my hands minus the use of my fingers because the pain was just TOO unbearable.
Every time something like that happens I always have just one single thought,
"Stupid"
 
Like others on this forum, I have more than one firearm. I use my 22's more than anything but I have bigger more powerful handguns as well. I bought a Ruger Blackhawk 357/38 special convertible 9mm that was made in 82. It is the real deal, and when I bought it I bought the best ammo for all three loads. I had never shot a 357 and was prepared to be tossed against the wall in my mind. I also have a 45 auto so maybe that helped but I really dont notice any unacceptable recoil or even muzzle flip with the 357. It is a 4 5/8ths barrel and has Ruger Wood grips. Dont know if they were stock on the Blackhawk back then as I see the new ones have the checkered black plastic grips. I have a small set up on my land and shoot almost everyday, it does rain. lol
 
Pain is your body's way of saying something isn't right. If you think your manhood is based on the ability to endure it, you would be grossly mistaken and about to make your ortho surgeon very wealthy - IF he can repair the damage

Wise up before it is too late
 
Bahhhhhh!!!!! I am tuff!!!!!!! I go shoot my .458 Lott every morning before sunrise………. One handed too! Yea, it bangs me in the forehead and I bleed all over the place……….. But I like it!!!!!! Then I have my girlfriend throw broken glass in my face and try to push me over!!!!! This helps keep me on my toes!!!!

Then on the way home I look for a puppy to kick!!!! After I’ve done that, I punch a deer to death, tear out its heart and eat it raw!!!! After I’ve done this, I look to the sky and let out a primal scream that would scare off a pride of African lions!!!!!

Right before bed, I punch myself in the groin a few times just to remind myself of how tuff I am!!! Then I flex in front of the mirror a few times, make love to my woman, and sleep the righteous sleep of a REAL MAN.

I realize the above joke will probably get deleted by one of the moderators.

Ok, now that I’m done laughing, if a gun hurts to shoot it, then there is one of three things going on. Either you are doing something wrong, the gun was a poorly designed concept, or the weapon is inappropriate for the shooter. Yes, a person can ignore discomfort and continue doing something that doesn’t work…………or a person can do something about it. I am 6’ 3” and 210lbs. I shoot a S&W 460 Magnum with a 5” barrel, with full power loads on a regular basis. Do I expect my female friend who is 5’ 5” tall and a 135 lbs. to shoot that gun with the same level of comfort I do? NO!!!! It is an inappropriate weapon for someone of that stature and level of physical strength. That being said, I let her shoot a .454 Casull out of it. Her eyes got big, and she told me she didn’t want to shoot anything bigger. I told her “Then you shouldn’t.” I didn’t ridicule her for being week or anything. I applaud her honesty.

I agree with what Nushif said. This is not High Road material, and this thread serves no real purpose. I do agree that there are some people who are too recoil sensitive that they should stick to .22’s, and I often wonder why they got into shooting if recoil was such an issue for them. But there have always been shooters that many of us would consider “sissies.” It’s just that the internet allows them to have their voices heard.
 
psyshack, bro it sounds as if you've been rode hard and put away wet. I'm 10 or so years older than you with only 25% of the problems you have, but as others have wisely suggested pain in natures was of saying SLOW DOWN dude. As for the younger shooters not being as tough as we would like to think we are, I don't think so. I believe that many of us, in our general are group, were trained from birth just to suck it up and deal with it. So it's often us not them.

Ps. I still love shooting my magnum loads in my revolvers, but not as often as I used to.
 
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Fifty years old? Lordy, I turned fifty in 1984.

Young whippersnappers all full of testosterone and machismo are tiresome, y'know? :D Hmmpf. Barely old enough to justify their opinions...

But this is the High Road, and folks would be advised to use language suitable for keeping my Grammaw at peace. And her preacher, of course. We're G-rated, here, not a bunch of knuckle-dragging Neanderthals.
 
There is a lot about shooting that is the shooter's problem, not the gun's. But there's some stuff that isn't. People are shaped differently. Different folks have different levels of strength in different parts of their body. Finding a gun that fits you well and that you can control most easily will make you a more effective shooter. Shooting a gun that beats you up is dumb, if there are other options.

The other half of the question is, what are you shooting for? Are you hunting medium-large game with a handgun? If so, then by all means you need to learn to handle a handgun that produces a fair amount of recoil. It is required to get the job done humanely.

Are you shooting paper and tin cans -- mostly to hear the roar and feel the blast? If so, fine. Enjoy the heavy hitters.

Are you practicing to defend yourself with a handgun? Or practicing to compete in some fixed match format? Neither of these require -- or reward in any way -- shooting a gun that produces a lot of recoil, that is uncomfortable to shoot, and/or that is slow to follow-up. That's kind of like saying I only play baseball with my left hand, I tie a blindfold over one eye when I drive ... and I only hunt while carrying a boom box blasting Flight of the Valkyries at vol. 11. :rolleyes:

A good shooter can learn the proper techniques to handle heavy-recoiling guns when there is value in doing so. But a smart man can figure out when that is the case and when he's just looking to prove something.
 
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