Henry Big Boy 44 mag

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I've been looking for a good lever gun in 44 mag. I currently have a Marlin with micro groove and am not fond of it at all. I've been looking at the Henry Big Boy and would like some input from someone with experience with this rifle. I was wondering how well it handles full power loads. I understand that the original 19th century brass framed Henry rifles could experience stretchijng of the frame if pressures got too high. Are the new rifles susceptible to this? How about accuracy?
 
The Big Boy bears no relation to the original Henry in construction or materials.
The alloy used in the frame is not the same & can handle .44 Mag pressures.
It's a heavy gun, though, just FYI if you plan to carry it much on foot.
Denis
 
As Denis mentioned, the current Henry Repeating Arms Co. has absolutely no relation to the original Benjamin Tyler Henry that designed the 1860. They are simply cashing in on the famous name. As a levergun connoisseur I find the Big Boy to be ugly as sin, overpriced, underfinished and a full two pounds heavier than a comparable Marlin.

What is your issue with the Marlin?
 
Performance wise, very few used in cowboy shooting. Solid rifle. Not many 44 mag levers out there. Here are a few.
 

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I actually have quite the collection of Marlin lever guns. Most are vintage with cut rifling. The 44 mag is the only one that I have with the micro-groove. I bought it under the advice of some friends who insisted that the micro-groove was very accurate with jacketed bullets and hard cast. I have fired every ammo under the sun including jacketed of every weight, hard cast, slightly oversized cast, gas checks, blah, blah, blah. I've meticulously cleaned it and begun again. My very best results have been unable to keep 5 rounds on a standard issue paper plate at 100 yards, and I'm a pretty decent shot. I do not have this issue with any other rifle. I can confidently say that my particular Marlin 44 is not an accurate rifle. So, I was looking to replace it with something in the same niche. Recently I have begun to consider rebarreling it with a cut rifling barrel.

Although I agree with CraigC that the Henry is "butt ugly", I developed a passing interest when I picked one up at a gun shop and found the action to be as slick as snot. I don't like the loading technique or the look of the brass. I wish they had a loading gate and steel receiver. I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with them that might sway me as yet I am undecided.

On a side note, Henry sent me an email today saying that the brass receivers are freeze treated giving them the same tensil strength as steel.
 
Rebarrelling would be a worthy alternative and should cost a little less than the Henry. You could also have the rifle tuned for feeding the heavyweights if that is your thing. You can certainly improvement upon the Marlin's 1-38" twist with a faster 1-20".

My own 1894S model was not made on the same day as yours. It is unbelievably accurate and many would call me a liar for stating that it shoots the factory 270gr Gold Dot under an inch at 100yds. It does just over an inch with my 240gr Gold Dot handloads. Unfortunately some idiot (me!) left it in a hard case on the floor of the basement for almost a year and it is now a rust bucket. The bore is okay so I think I'm gonna have it shortened to 16", bead blasted and hard chromed.
 
Twist rate, probably, more than the type of rifling.
Mine is not highly accurate, but it'll do out to 100 with the right load.
Denis
 
The crown is good. I've been over this rifle with a fine tooth comb and can't find anything irregular. Over time, I have speculated that the bore may have been cut too large. I've never actually slugged the barrel or taken any measurements. I have plenty of rifles to shoot and will either replace the barrel or the entire gun. Even if I found the magis load that it likes and had some success, i want something that performs a bit more consistently.
 
Yesterday a friend of mine asked the same question and I traded it to him for a S&W 29 with 8 3/8" barrel.
 
I have the Henry in .357. Its accurate and works flawlessly. Assume the .44 mag would be similar. It is a bit heavy tho.
 
Had a Rossi

in .44 Mag, I loved it. It was stolen.
Currently awaiting a replacement in .45LC/.454Casull.
According to reloading data, the .454 has the same energy 100 yds down range that the .44 has at the muzzle.
Looking forward to it, range report will follow.
 
help

im looking for a good henry repeater, but i dont want the new company henrys and i dont have a lot of money. can anyone help me out?
 
There are two Henry "repeaters", essentially.
Which are you talking about?

The current Henrys are modern US-made guns with no relation to the original Henrys.

If you want a replica of an original toggle-style Henry, there are several importers of the Italian guns.
Cimarron, EMF, Navy, Taylors, etc.
Those WILL cost you a fair amount of money, no matter which importer you go with.

Otherwise, check the internet auction sites like Gunbroker & Guns America for used replicas, which still won't be cheap.

Denis
 
Marlins often have oversized bores. Slug it and size 1 or 2 thou. over if you ever get another micro groove. I had an Marlin 1894 in 44-40 that was made in 1897. The bore slugged at .431.
 
I have a henry big boy in 45LC it will shoot buffalo bore 325 +P but they are a little long for the action and don't feed well, it is very accurate.
Only reason I bought it is got a good geal.
Don't care for the loading tube if it had a loading gate I would be more of a fan.
 
the one im talking about is the real henry repeater, not the US made crap. theyre ok and all but i want an actual henry model 1860. thanks for the suggestions guys.
 
The US-made Henrys are far from crap.

If you want an "actual" one, that'd be an antique & very expensive.
If "actual" includes Italian replicas, you'd be looking at anywhere from $900 on up in a new one, $500-$700 maybe for a used one.

They are weaker actions & will not handle magnum handgun rounds anywhere near as well as a New York Henry or a Marlin, IF that makes any difference in what you plan to shoot.


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