Hornady's Sweet Seventeen

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Hornady's Sweet Seventeen


Our Reloading/Rifles Editor says the .17 HMR cartridge is a real "hummer of a rimfire."

By Rick Jamison

Hornady has been quietly making progress toward the hottest commercial rimfire cartridge ever to come along. Shooting a .17-caliber bullet from a necked-down .22 Magnum case, it doesn't look very big and doesn't make a lot of noise, but it spits out a sleek little 17-grain bullet way faster than any rimfire going. And as Hornady gears up to make ammunition, Ruger and Marlin have announced bolt-action rifles to fire it.

So exactly what ballistics does the new round turn up? Hornady reports 2550 fps from a little 17-grain V-Max boattail bullet with a ballistic coefficient (B.C.) of .125.


How does that reporting stack up in the real world? I fired the ammo and found it more than lives up to Hornady's quoted figures. I chronographed 100 rounds from three different rifles--two Marlins and a Ruger--firing 10 10-shot strings over my Oehler system. The instrumental velocity (15 feet from the muzzle) average for all this shooting was 2573 fps, or 23 fps faster than the 2550 muzzle velocity advertised by Hornady. Nine of these groups were fired at 100 yards, and here the B.C. averaged .126, again, slightly better than what Hornady advertised. The B.C. average for 10 shots over 200 yards (one rifle) was .121, or slightly lower than Hornady's B.C. label.

With measured instrumental velocity and time of flight (to find B.C.), the Oehler system then computes muzzle velocity very accurately. The lower B.C. of .121 means that the actual muzzle velocity is 2610 fps, or 60 fps faster than Hornady's advertised figures. This is about 700 fps faster than a standard .22 Magnum rimfire with a standard 40-grain loading, and it is nearly as fast as the .22 Hornet centerfire with a factory 45-grain loading.

As for energy, a true muzzle velocity of 2610 fps with a 17-grain bullet turns up 257 ft-lbs. If you go with Hornady's advertised figures of 2550 fps and .125 B.C., the muzzle energy is 245 ft-lbs, or slightly less than a .22 Magnum.

Hornady calls the new rimfire the .17 HMR for Hornady Magnum Rimfire. With an abbreviated name like that, it's natural to call the HMR a real "hummer." It is.

I've been shooting prototype rifles and ammunition for the past few days on targets, expansion medium, and water-filled plastic bottles. The nifty little cartridge in the prototype rifles is one fun cartridge to shoot.

A LITTLE .17 RIMFIRE HISTORY
Development of the ammunition has been a long process. If you're a longtime reader of Shooting Times, you may already be experiencing deja-vu. If you've kept your back issues, take a look at the January 1992 issue for an article called the "Revolutionary .17 Rimfire." In that article I outlined experiments by Steve Chernicky, Terry Kopp, W.A. Eichelberger, A.J. Jones, Fred Wood, and others who have worked on various versions of small caliber rimfires. Shooting Times technical staff member Kopp's round was called the .17 KRM. It fired a 25-grain bullet at 2100 to 2400 fps that was intended to duplicate the performance of the defunct 5mm Remington Magnum. It did so nicely--and then some. Chernicky, on the other hand, went all out for velocity, pushing the limit and eventually getting 2700 fps with lighter 20-grain bullets.

Chernicky had so worked out things to the point that everything went smoothly. The actions had first-class rebarrelings, and the handloads were carefully assembled to .01 grain of powder. With velocity results like that a whole lot of people in the industry were excited about the prospects. I figured it was just a matter of finalizing R&D before we saw ammunition from a major company.

As it turned out, the major companies couldn't make ammunition that performed to market expectations at industry standard pressures. Industry standard pressure (to be read as "safe pressure") is the kicker, and being unable to make factory ammunition at industry standard pressure often happens with centerfire cartridge wildcats. A wildcat cartridge produces more velocity than it has any right to. The wildcatter touts the performance of his new round as producing more velocity than any factory offering of similar capacity and even has the chronograph data to prove it. The reality is that he abides by no industry standard pressure limit and has no means to measure pressure. He's added powder until there is sticky extraction or loose primer pockets and then backed off a bit. Some may even have measured case expansion, but the bottom line is the same. Pressures are overboard by industry standards. He has unknowingly exceeded the safe level and is operating in the margin of safety built into rifles and cartridge brass. He doesn't know how far he has intruded into this margin, and he won't know until something disastrous happens.

I'm not knocking wildcatting. I'm speaking in generalities and not about anyone or any specific instance in particular. Kopp and Chernicky are very experienced and know what they are doing. Both use handloading safeguards, and Chernicky had the added advantage of working with a manufacturer who supplied primed empty cases.

Only recently with Oehler's revolutionary Model 43PBL has the serious individual handloader had the means to get a relative measure on chamber pressure. For many years wildcatting handloaders did the best they could with the tools available. This is one reason why it's called "wildcatting." All this doesn't erase the fact that unless a person has a way to actually measure chamber pressure, he has no idea what it is.

In some respects, rimfire cartridges are even touchier to work with than centerfires. You should never try to pull bullets from rimfire ammunition. And you should never try to reform rimfire cases. It is dangerous. Remember, the priming compound is in the rim, a projection normally used to grip cases in bullet pulling and sizing. You could set a round off.


http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition/17_hmr_0508/
 
I am seriously considering a ''hummer'' .... knowing now 2 guys who have IMMENSE fun shootin these things. Pity the ammo is on expensive side but ... seems now some better prices are around.

Apparently .... a squirrel at up to 100 yds is somewhat ''vaporized'' .... :evil: :p
 
Whats the point of reprinting all the advertisement Hype if you're asking a legitimate question?

As for the real world performance of the .17HMR, a quick perusal of the www.rimfirecentral.com web site would have answered all your questions.

Personally, my Marlin 917 (22"bbl) runs to 2,650fps with current lots of ammo, both Hornady and CCI. (Rumor has it that CCI is producing all the brass, and Hornady is making all the plastic tip bullets, and CCI is loading all except the Hornady labeled ammo, even that marketed by Remington, and CCI's companion company Federal-bought out in 2002).

Also, my experience with shooting it to 150yds confirms that the .14 BC advertised is adequately close.
Can you really tell the difference between .12 and .14 in the field with a firearm that shoots ~1.0" groups at 100yds? And shooting at targets that approach the accuracy level to ~200yds?

The cost of the HMR ammo is coming down steadily. Currently MidsouthShootersSupply is selling it out the door at around $7.70 a box. As many cases as you wish.

As for comparison between it and the .22mag., it's actually like comparing the .30/06 against the .458mag. Performance is so different that there is really no comparison.

I have both .22lr and .22WMR in Remington m597's, std. bbls., and gray laminated stocks, glass bedded, and trigger jobs. Both shoot to 1/2" at 50yds. The .22mag has more arched trajectory than the .17, but momentum energy of the larger/heavier bullet has greater killing power on game over 15lbs in weight. I have killed pigs, deer, coyote, and dogs with the .22mag (deer killed legally- ojt, dispatching car-collision incidents). The .17 cannot match the penetration or wound channel of the 40-50gr. bullets of the .22mag. For accuracy at 100yds, it's a toss-up between the Hummer and the better .22mag ammo.

In my own use, the .17HMR is good for game up to about 15lbs., as a pest destroyer. My limited use of it on game is restricted to gray squirrels, and except with the 17gr CCI Tnt, is excessively destructive out to about 75yds, the longest distance I've been able get reliable hits. (even with heavy barrel, rifle is on light side, and squirrels don't exactly sit and wait to be shot at, and in trees, often don't present ideal targets).

With the 17gr CCI TnT, I've been able to get head shots that didn't wreck the edible meat. Not so with the Hornady plastic tips.

Accuracy has favored the Hornady bullets with most groups going to 1.0" to 1.125", usually 4 in 1/2", and single flyer.

The CCI's run 1.2" to 1.5", usually 3 nearly touching, and two flyers per 5shot group.

Nothing that hasn't been reported in print or electronic medias.

Trajectory for practical purposes is laser flat to 125yds.

Generally though, I still prefer the .22mag.

But the .22 Hornet is still in an altogether different catagory. Actually, much closer to the .222 and .223 than most presume, in my opinion.
(Have or had all the above and used on game from 1lb to 200lb.)
 
Some years ago, various .17 caliber centerfires were all the rage. Where are they now?

Some years ago, Remington came out with a 5mm Rimfire Magnum cartridge, surrounded by hype almost identical in tone to what they're saying about the .17 rimfire.

When was the last time anyone even made 5mm rimfire magnum ammo?

It'll be real interesting to see what, if anything, is being written about the .17 rimfire in, oh, say 10 or 15 years.
 
Some years ago, various .17 caliber centerfires were all the rage. Where are they now?

Well, I used one last Saturday to "save the Prairie" from some burrowing varmits. :D

I will shoot many 000s of round through my .17/.357mag during the varmiting season.
 
Dave R:
I will shoot many 000s of round through my .17/.357mag during the varmiting season.
Well, good for you!

BUT . . . I'll bet you find it almost as hard to find .17/.357 ammo on the shelf as I do finding factory fodder for my 6.5 Ingram Contender. :D

AND . . . I'll bet you'll be able to keep your .17/.357 "fed" longer than the poor guys who have 5mm Remington Magnum Rimfire ammo. :cool:

Or .17 rimfire, for that matter. :neener:
 
Actually, The .17HRM will be doing quite well several years from now. The .17H2 (.17 mach-2) will be on the shelves in August. Not too sure about it, though.
It too (.17HMR) is doing yeoman duty saving the world from "marauding rodents".
A lot of rat shooters are singing the praises of this round just because there is no reloading necessary, just a tarp to catch all the emptys. Seems the 'Yote's that survive "contact" are content to clean up the rat carcasses left behind.

I'm not really into the rimfire scene, but shoot a lot, so when Wally World got a .17 HMR Marlin in for less than price of good barrel for a 10/22, I thought- WHY NOT?

Unlike the 5mm Remington, the .17's are available in many different makes of guns, and ammunition offerings are expanding. Later this summer, Hornady will have a 20gr hollow point bullet/ammo out. Velocity is down, energy is up, and it shouldn't be quite so destructive on game. Accuracy is off a little as the 17gr bullet is optimum for the 1/9" twist of the barrels, based on preproduction testing I've read about.

Accuracy and trajectory are what the .17HRM is all about. $5.00 a box for the 5mm in 1972 is a lot different than $8.00-$10.00 in 2004 for .17HRM (what they sold for in the shop I worked in after school- talk about a "dream job" for a high-schooler!). If the .17 Hummer was the equivalent of the Remington -then, it would be $20.00-25.00 a box. Even with the accuracy the .17 has, it would have been a bust, just like the Remington, which didn't have the accuracy or trajectory.

The fact that the .17HMR cartridge yeilded 100fps faster than originally advertised is just part of the "karma" that has accompanied this cartridge to make it as successful as it has been.

If you weren't keeping up with it since it's release, you wouldn't know that ammo was tough to get for a while because of all the people that were "hoarding" the ammo, because of 1.) Speculation that following lot#'s wouldn't be as good or accurate as the early one's, and 2.) That if it did go BUST, ammo would immediately go through the roof in value. Neither has happened so far, and from the #'s of rifles I seen, or heard of, probably won't happen. I heard the same demise predicted for the .22WRM too. Ammo has never been better, nor availability. In the small town I live in, the small WalMart has four different loadings for .22mag, and always has the .17HRM CCI TnT load. If anything else, THAT will ensure success of the cartridge!

Not real sure how the .17H2 will go over though, as ammunition is not all that much cheaper. Last prices I saw predicted for the "H2" was about $6.00 for a box of 50, vs. about $8.00/50 for the Hummer.

NO THANKS! I'll stick with the .22lr that the .17H2 is after.
 
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