HS Precision or Remington Factory Stock?

[M1key]

How many of you prefer HS Precision stocks over Remington factory?

I usually go for stocks with bedding blocks (like HS) to eliminate any potential bedding problems...Any of you stay with Remington factory?

I am setting up a 6mm Rem VLS for my wife (yah, sure) and want to optimize accuracy. However, the VLS stock is heavier than the synthetic HS and should make the rifle a bit easier shooting recoil-wise...

What is the consensus here?

M

 

[LoonWulf]

remingtons synthetic stocks actually fit me very well. That being the case ive never gotten around to changing them on guns i bang around. If i were building up a varmint gun or something else that would be mostly stationary id use the HS. You can always add weight if your so inclined.

 

[Haxby]

I would bed the VLS factory stock.

 

[Maverick223]

I greatly prefer the HSP. Weight can always be added (just fill and old sock with the desired amount of lead shot, drop it in and fill in the rest of the area with open cell foam to keep it in place) as can a better recoil pad, but personally I don't find either to be necessary when shooting the light recoiling 6mmRem. cartridge.

 

[Vaarok]

HS precision is somewhat reviled in the firearm community since they used Lon Horiuchi as a spokesman last year and then were ambivalent about the controversy it generated among shooting enthusiasts. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it. Personally, I'd avoid them on principles.

 

[jerkface11]

HS precision is somewhat reviled in the firearm community since they used Lon Horiuchi as a spokesman last year and then were ambivalent about the controversy it generated among shooting enthusiasts. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it. Personally, I'd avoid them on principles.

I was gonna say that.

 

[JoelSteinbach]

A good bedding job on the Remington Stock will mak a world of difference, and save you many $$$$

 

[M1key]

I bought mine long before HS Precision endorsed Horiuchi.

Anyway, my first trip to the range with the 6mm told me I definitely need to do something. None of my loads or factory loads were doing anything. Pulled the action and noticed factory stock had heavily built-up area at the foretip. If I decide to keep the stock, I will probably bed the action and free float the barrel. First thing I plan to try is dropping the action into the HS stock and see how that works with the same loads.

M

 

[kd7nqb]

If you believe in the 2nd amendment at all you won't do ANY business with hsp google. Them and the. First non commercial link should be stingray at atomic nerds read his stuff

 

[Lazerbeans]

I didn't realize that HS had any endorsements, let alone Lon Horiuchi. I wasn't familiar with the story, so I googled it. From the sounds of it in the case of Rudy Ridge it MIGHT have been an accident, but it sounds like he had help from friends in high places to get himself out of trouble, so he is more than likely dirty. And if HS is indifferent to the controversy involving the guy, then I too need to find a different company to get rifle stock from. If nothing else to make a statement about people in authority abusing their power, in one form or another.

 

[TonyAngel]

Most of the Remington stocks that I've shot were more than capable of getting the job done, although some needed some TLC to get the most out of them. Still, given the choice between a Remington stock and an after market stock, I'll almost always take the aftermarket stock.

I have a couple of HS Precision stocks and like them OK, but I really don't see how it is that they got the reputation that they have for being a quality stock. On the ones that I've seen, there was overspray on the portion of the block that the rear tang was supposed to rest on and the recoil lugs didn't even come close to coming into contact with the bedding block. The guys that I've talked to said that this was normal. I thought that it reflected shoddy work.

On an whim, I bought a Bell & Carlson M40 stock. I know that B&C has a reputation for being a budget stock, but after having had one, I don't think that I'll ever buy another HSP. The B&C stock was clean, meaning that the machine work on the block was perfect. There wasn't any over spray anywhere and the recoil lug at least came into contact with the block.

When I opened the channel on the B&C, I used a dowel and sandpaper. The material sanded like fiber glass or carbon fiber would, yielding a fine powder. When I sanded the HSP using the same method, the material came off in clumps, rather than a fine powder. it was also much easier to sand. Personally, I just thought that the B&C was a better quality stock. From what I understand, the bipod stud on the B&C is also threaded into the aluminum block, so you don't have to worry about the stud pulling out like you do on an HSP.

I'm getting ready to order a B&C A2 to see how I like that. I know that this may be a bit off topic, but thought I'd throw it in. There are lots of people that like the HSP stocks and talk badly of the B&C, but I wonder how many of them that do so have actually shot a B&C.

 

[benzy2]

The B&C stocks with the metal bedding blocks are pretty decent stocks, especially for the money. HSP makes decent stuff, maybe on par with the better B&C line, but certainly gets a premium price for their work. I'd rather step into a McMillan than pay for an HSP. They also have the tainted past as brought up. Personally, I wouldn't buy a new HSP or spend extra on a rifle to have it come with one. If on the other hand, someone was planning on tossing it in a river or sending it back with a note, (wink wink), I'd be glad to pay shipping to have it come my way. I wouldn't be against picking one up cheap on the used market, but new, I wouldn't give them the money to keep their doors open.

 

[benzy2]

Haha, what's funny is I was looking at picking up a 700 SPS and tossing their stock on it when everything went south. That was actually the end of that project before it started. It's a shame they support Horiuchi. They always seemed a little overpriced, but after that, forget it. Not sure I'd sell it just to be out of their name, but I certainly would be glad if there weren't any markings on the stock as well.

 

[jmr40]

Lots of guys complain about the cheap factory stocks, but they work just fine. A stock with the aluminum blocks only add weight, and is a substitute for making a quality stock to begin with. Well made stocks don't need an block of metal molded into the stock.

The 3 most accurate rifles I've ever shot were all in the cheap injection molded stocks. A Remigton VTR, Styer Prohunter and a Tikka T-3. If your rifle does not shoot well, changing the stock will not suddenly make it a tack driver. If it does, there was a minor problem with the bedding of the stock you took off that could have easily, and much less expensively been fixed.

I've been using aftermarket synthetics for 30 years now and have never seen a noticeable improvement in accuracy. I have changed them because I liked the ergonomics, and the lighter weight better onsome of the aftermarket stocks. All of the stocks with metal molded in them weighed more than any other stock and because of the metal inside must be made rather thick and chunky. Given a choice between a factory tupperware stock and anything made with a metal block, I'd take the factory stock on a hunting rifle. I may consider it on a rifle intended to be used mainly at the range.

 

[LTR shooter]

All of the stocks with metal molded in them weighed more than any other stock and because of the metal inside must be made rather thick and chunky.

The metal used in the bedding blocks of the HS or Bell & Carlson stocks is aluminum and is actually very light. My Remington laminated wood factory stock is actually heavier than my HS with the aluminum block. The HS stock and my factory walnut 700 BDL varmint stock weigh the same.

 

[js2013]

A properly bedded VLS stock is far superior to an HS stock.