I pick up my DSA STG58 thursday, got some questions

[datruth]

I pick my rifle up Thursday that I have wanted since getting back from the sandbox, got a few questions. first where to get good mags and good ammo to fill them with, and do I have to shoot 308win or 7.62x51 predominately? The very last thing I want to do is get good optics for it, what do you all suggest, , for range,shtf,home defense rifle , and I would need the picatinny rail system, I think it is called the extreme duty scope mount, but on there website, it seems it only fits the SA58, is it going to fit the STG58?It will be my only 308 battle rifle, for lack of a better term, Im glad I waited to get a DSA instead of settling for a century, thanks again high road,

 

[Line Rider]

I own a DSA StG 58 also.

Good used magazine DSA has Steyr magazine for $7.00 I have order them before and they're Very Good. Israeli magazine are good also. But I don't think you will find them for $7.00 a piece.

I'm shooting Portuguese mil. surplus in mine. It works fine. I think .308 Win. and 7.62x51 are the same.

As for optic you will need the rail from DSA. They make the best.

 

[USSR]

DSA Stg58 with Extreme Duty mount.

Don

 

[iamkris]

First, welcome back.

Second, congrats on the FAL. Best main battle rifle out there...I have a DSA StG58 and a SA58 Para. They're awesome (I also own an M1A, a PTR91, CETME, buncha ARs, AKs, etc...I can honestly say the FAL is better overall than all of them...in my own humble opinion)

Next, I think the best deal going are the mags on DSA's website...excellent to new Steyr mags for $12. Next best deal I found were new-in-wrap military mags from CDNN...$7. The FAL mag is pretty tough...even the beat-to-heck genuine military mags I have are reliable.

Good surplus 7.62 NATO has dried up. At minimum, you'll spend $0.50 a round. I highly recommend reloading, but even surplus cases and projectiles are quite scarce these days. That said, I can load NATO spec rounds for $0.24 per round. In about 500 rounds you will have completely paid off your press, balance and die investment...then it's all gravy from there.

The Extreme Duty mount fits the StG just fine. The only difference in the SA58 and the StG is that the SA is all newly manufactured parts. The StG uses parts left over from the Steyr warehouse that DSA bought. New-old parts if you will. It is a great mount.

I like to shoot my StG58 with the irons. If you are going to put a scope on it, don't put a HUGE target scope...that just looks ridiculous and the FAL isn't meant to be a "sniper". If you want one optic that will allow you to have a variable mission, consider an ACOG or one of the low powered, illuminated variables...usually a 1x-4x variable. I have a Millett DMS-1 but other very good options are the IOR that DSA sells, the Horus, Leupold CQ/T, etc.





You can put an EoTech or Aimpoint on but the 1x optic doesn't seem to fit your mission.

 

[Wes Janson]

Hey Kris, you used the high rings on your DMS-1, correct? Do you think a set of medium rings would work on an SA-58 with a hooded rear sight? Already have a loose pair of QD medium rings, and would like to be able to use them..

 

[W.E.G.]

The DSA "Extreme Duty" scope mount fits any FAL except the para model.

You have to get a mount with the para innards to use an aftermarket top cover on a para FAL.

When you install the mount, take care to NOT OVERTIGHTEN the screws. They are super easy to strip. It takes fairly little torque to secure these screws.

Once you determine that the mount fits properly, and all locking plates are FULLY SEATED in the groove you are ready for a range trip. Be very aware of any incident where the bolt carrier may drag on the locking plates of the mount. Its very easy to be fooled, and think the plates are fully seated, when really they are not. If the bolt carrier gets a good bite on one of those plates, it will play hell.

After you have determined that the bolt carier, and the mount, and the locking plates are getting along, its time to dismount the entire thing. Clean the threads on the screws and the locking plate with a strong degreaser. Reinstall the mount using BLUE LOCTITE on the threads. Failure to use Loctite will almost surely result in a loose screw, and a loose plate, and the carrier playing hell with the mount.

Once you have the mount installed, DO NOT REMOVE THE MOUNT when you clean the rifle. These things are NOT made to be taken on and off constantly.

As a final last precaution, I like to dremel a little divot on each screw at the 12 o'clock position. This serves as a monitoring mark to make sure none of the screws are loosening. A dab of paint will help you distinguish the divot from other random dings that may be inflicted on the mount during service.

 

[iamkris]

you used the high rings on your DMS-1, correct? Do you think a set of medium rings would work on an SA-58 with a hooded rear sight?

Yup, used the high rings. If you are using another scope that doesn't have an extended "bump" for finger purchase on the magnification ring, the medium rings will probably be ok, as long as the ocular lens is forward of the rear sight.

If you are using the DMS, you'll have to use the high rings. There's a bump on the variable mag ring that goes UNDER the scope when you twist it from 1x to 4x. The ring rings are required to let that clear. (I had the med rings and had to return them).

little divot on each screw at the 12 o'clock position. This serves as a monitoring mark to make sure none of the screws are loosening.

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