Illinois gun owners light up these phones NOW

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Here is a link www.isra.org. These folks are sitting on the fence, I would like to give them a push over to our side.

Ruth Munson 217-782-8020

Lee Daniels 217-782-4014

Suzanne Bassi 217-782-8026

John Millner 217-558-1037

Patricia Belloch 217-782-1448

Joe Dunn 217-782-6507

Renee Kosel 217-782-0424

JoAnn Osmond 217-782-8151

Patricia Reid 217-782-1486

Please ask them to stand firm against the Daley machine and oppose any 50 caliber and assault weapon ban in Illinois.
 
SaintofKillers,

Is it ok if I copy your WORK to other forums?
 
Just an update, Patricia Belloch is for the ban so I think we can consider her not a fence sitter as was previously thought.



Yes I think the sky is falling!!!
 
Well the Chicago Tribune is pushing this...surprise, surprise.....

According to the Legislature's website, Acevedo has filed two more amendments today but there is no link to the wording yet. Both amendments were referred to the Rules committee. It's 3:20 pm now. The amendments won't be posted until approved by the rules committee. Probably won't see a third reading and vote until tomorrow.

We have to hold the line with the collar county republicans. Downstate this won't get but one or two democratic votes and no republican votes.

It's a good sign that I haven't received any alerts from ISRA on this yet. Still not in panic mode.

Jeff
 
I have been calling all day, the only answers that I have been getting on their positions is "I dunno," I have called my rep. Shane Cultra, he I believe, to be solidly behind us.

I dont really depend to much on the I$RA anymore, I think they may sell us out just to keep their Garands.

I havent seen anything on the NRA/ILA site either.
 
I just got off the phone with Kurt Grandberg's Springfield office. Got voicemail which is unusual for this time of day. I will report back here when I get a call back. I have never failed to get a call back from his office in the past.

Well before I finished the post they called back and assured me he will not vote for the bill. Grandburg is the Majority Leader. So it looks like there will have to be an unholy coalition of Chicago Democrats and collar county republicans to pass this abombination. I would imagine the only downstate Democrat who will vote for it will be Yvetter Young from East St Louis.

The state is broke and the legislature has been busy passing feel good legislation creating programs they have no hope of funding with the estimated 2 billion dollar deficit this year. I really don't think Daley and Blagojevich (if Blagojevich who has raised more then 10 million to campaign for second term wants to really shoot himself in the foot downstate by publically supporting this) have any real money to buy off the Southern Illinois representatives.

Let's keep up the calls but don't anyone panic. We should be more concerned about getting Phelp's concealed carry bill back out of the rules committee and getting a vote on it before close of business tomorrow. Phelps offered an amendment on the 12th and it's still in the rules committee.

Jeff

Jeff
 
I spoke with Cultras' aide today earlier, they are not too happy with some members of the Republican party in Illinois right now, the aide felt that Blago and the dems know that this has to pass this year, or Blago wont get the downstate support that he got when elected.

I think he doesnt want to have gun control as an issue in the next election.

Guess he thinks we will all forget how he stabbed us in the back.
 
UH OH Looks like we got some back door dealing going on to get this thing passed, an amendment has been added, looks like a grandfather clause.

This does not look good IMO. I think this was done to get the fence sitters on the anti side, I also heard that a sunset clause was placed in it too but I have no evidence to that effect yet.
 
Where did you find the texts of amendments 3 and 4? They aren't on the General Assembly Website as of 9:15 pm CST on the 14th.

Jeff
 
I have phoned all day. I have all the Reps And Senators in a email and fax program. Have already sent them faxes last week. The email I just am waiting until last minute. Getting panicked.
 
Amendment 3 is a grandfather clause:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ful...Id=HB&LegID=17433&DocNum=2414&GAID=8&Session=
09400HB2414ham003 LRB094 09150 RLC 45186 a


AMENDMENT TO HOUSE BILL 2414

AMENDMENT NO. ______. Amend House Bill 2414, AS AMENDED,
with reference to page and line numbers of House Amendment No.
1, on page 4, by replacing lines 7 through 12 with the
following:
"(c) This Section does not apply to a person who possessed
a weapon or attachment prohibited by subsection (b) before the
effective date of this amendatory Act of the 94th General
Assembly. On or after the effective date of this amendatory Act
of the 94th General Assembly, such person may transfer such
weapon or attachment only to a dealer licensed as a federal
firearms dealer under Section 923 of the federal Gun Control
Act of 1968."; and

by replacing lines 30 through 33 on page 5 and lines 1 through
3 on page 6 with the following:
"(c) This Section does not apply to a person who possessed
a device prohibited by subsection (b) before the effective date
of this amendatory Act of the 94th General Assembly. On or
after the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 94th
General Assembly, such person may transfer such device only to
a dealer licensed as a federal firearms dealer under Section
923 of the federal Gun Control Act of 1968.".

And amendment 4 makes the law effective immediately. It's not a sunset provision.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ful...Id=HB&LegID=17433&DocNum=2414&GAID=8&Session=
09400HB2414ham004 LRB094 09150 RLC 45197 a


AMENDMENT TO HOUSE BILL 2414

AMENDMENT NO. ______. Amend House Bill 2414, AS AMENDED, by
replacing all of subsection (c) of Sec. 24-1.7 of Section 5
with the following:
"(c) This Section does not apply to a person who possessed
a weapon or attachment prohibited by subsection (b) before the
effective date of this amendatory Act of the 94th General
Assembly. On or after the effective date of this amendatory Act
of the 94th General Assembly, such person may transfer such
weapon or attachment only to a dealer licensed as a federal
firearms dealer under Section 923 of the federal Gun Control
Act of 1968."; and

by replacing all of subsection (c) of Sec. 24-1.8 of Section 5
with the following:
"(c) This Section does not apply to a person who possessed
a device prohibited by subsection (b) before the effective date
of this amendatory Act of the 94th General Assembly. On or
after the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 94th
General Assembly, such person may transfer such device only to
a dealer licensed as a federal firearms dealer under Section
923 of the federal Gun Control Act of 1968."; and

by inserting after the last line of the bill the following:
"Section 99. Effective date. This Act takes effect upon
becoming law.".

Oddly enough, there is no mention of this bill in the legislative update posted on the ISRA website:
http://www.isra.org/
SRA Springfield Report
Your ISRA lobbyists hard at work in the 94th legislative session

This is going to be an on-going series of reports from our lobbyists in Springfield. We hope to be able to bring you news as it happens, or shortly thereafter. They'll be able to give you a view of the action that they see daily, that most of us won't ever get the chance to experience directly. - webmaster

ISRA Past President Jim Vinopal writes this afternoon:
SB - A219 , the bill that would have required loss of a gun, through theft or otherwise, to be reported to the State Police within 72 hours, failed to pass the Senate this afternoon. 219 received only 27 aye votes, 3 short of a required majority.

He followed up this evening with:
One problem with rapid reporting on the events in Springfield is the way things move on a somewhat uneven playing field. in the span of time since I reported the failure of SB-219, the sponsor apparently ask for and received postponed consideration for his bill. This means that he can call it for a new vote at a later time. Sort of like a second bite of the apple. The way things are shaping up, it is fairly unlikely that he will call it again but we will need to make sure he doesn't pick up any more votes.

Then we have some good news and bad news.

In regard to our (good) bills:
SB-57 PASSED and went to the House. This is a good gun show bill.
HB-340 PASSED and went to the House. This is a bill that removes the waiting period on trades and trade-ins.
HB-341 FAILED but was placed on postponed consideration. This is a good gun show bill.

In regard to their (bad) bills:
SB-332, a bill to require dealers to have a State license and to provide a registration system, was "removed from the record" by the sponsor. This, in effect, kills the bill.
SB-546 FAILED. This was a bad gun show bill.
HB-794 PASSED and went to the Senate. This is a bad gun show bill. Looks like we will have a fight on our hands to get the good bill passed in the Senate.

No telling what else will happen this evening. At last count, both houses were still in session.

Posted Thu Apr 14 20:47:57 CDT 2005

Three shell bills that were amended and had been assigned to the Senate Executive Committee: They were SB-1330, SB-1331 and SB-1332. They covered owner liability, public nuisance and one gun a month.

In a late night session of the full Senate today all three of the contrived bills went down by votes of 24 - 31, 24 - 31 and 20 - 34 respectively.

All things considered, the gun owners of Illinois had a pretty good day today. We just need to keep things rolling.

Updated Thu Apr 14 22:23:19 CDT 2005

This is all the ISRA says about the bill:

HB2414 Acevedo Anti-gun bill "Assault Weapon" and .50 cal ban Passed Executive Committee with 9-2-1 vote. 4/11- Amendment m #1 adopted. 4/13 - Amendment #2 adopted. 4/14 - Amendment #3 and Amendment #4 filed. This is one messy bill, it is suggested that you read the synopsis and all the amendments.

They are right in that it's one messy bill. I pointed out a couple of problems with it in the other thread. HB2414 is scheduled for a second reading and short debate on the House Calendar for Friday the 15th.
http://www.ilga.gov/house/schedules/Calendars/calendarproof_H094000041.pdf

The deadlines for this session say that the 15th of April is the final day for third reading and passage of House Substantive Bills. I don't know what happens to the bill after today.
http://www.ilga.gov/house/schedules/deadline.pdf

Jeff
 
Well the bill was referred back to the Rules Committee per House Rule 19a:
http://www.ilga.gov/house/rules.asp
(House Rule 19)

19. Re‑Referrals to the Rules Committee.

(a) All legislative measures that fail to meet the applicable deadline established under Rule 9 for reporting to the House by a standing committee or a special committee, for Third Reading and passage, or for consideration of joint action motions and conference committee reports are automatically re‑referred to the Rules Committee unless: (i) the deadline has been suspended or revised by the Speaker, with re‑referral to the Rules Committee to occur if the bill has not been reported to the House in accordance with a revised deadline; or (ii) the Rules Committee has issued a written exception to the Clerk with respect to a particular bill before the reporting deadline, with re‑referral to occur, if at all, in accordance with the written exception.

I guess that doesn't necessarily mean it's dead because the ISRA has this on it's website:

ISRA Springfield Report 4/15/2005

ISRA Past President Jim Vinopal writes this evening:
SB-219, originally called and short on votes was held for postponed consideration, as reported earlier. It was called again today and went down on a vote of 25-30-2. This time it is as dead as any bill can ever be in Springfield.

Also, rumor has it that HB-2414, the baddest .50 cal and AW ban bill on the docket, will be called on Tuesday next. It is vital that calls be generated to your State Representatives to oppose passage of this bill. It is especially important to contact people like Rep. Bellock (630-852-8633 and 217-782-1448), Rep. Pihos (630-858-8855 and 217-782-8037) and Rep. Lindner (630-466-9791 and 217-782-1846) to vote against HB-2414.

Posted Fri Apr 15 19:05:47 CDT 2005

The House isn't in session again until the 26th. The schedule for that day isn't available online yet. The way I understand the agenda, the rest of the legislative days in the House are to hear bills that originated in the Senate. There is no note saying that the deadline had been extended or revised by the speaker, or that the Rules Committee had issued a written exception. SO I don't see how they could bring it up on the 26th. Still they are politicians and as such, rules (even their own) don't apply when they get in the way of politics. It would seem like we have until the 26th to make the members of the House aware that a vote for this bill will have unfavorable political consequences.

Jeff
 
Well they have somehow managed to ressurect this bill from the wasteland of the rules committeee, where it was supposed to have went to die on the 15th.

Just got this from NRA/ILA:

Illinois: Anti-gun Bills to be Voted on Soon!

The Illinois House of Representatives will vote this Tuesday, April 26, on two bills that seek to ban firearms. The first, HB 1098, introduced by Representative Elaine Nekritz (D-57), seeks to ban all .50 caliber rifles and ammunition. The second, HB 2414, introduced by Representative Edward Acevedo (D-2), seeks to ban certain semi-automatic rifles and shotguns, as well as .50 caliber rifles. These bills will do nothing to address the problem of violent crime, and would serve only as another attack on our Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Proponents of this legislation have even stooped to exploit our nation's concerns over terrorism in order to advance their anti-gun agenda. Please call your State Representative and urge him/her to oppose HB 1098 and HB 2414. Tell your legislator that attacking the Second Amendment will do nothing to stop violent criminals or the threat of terrorism. For contact information for your legislators, please use the “Write Your Representatives†tool at www.nraila.org/

I've already spoken to Kurt Grandurg's office and was told he will not support this legislation or vote for it. Kurt is the Majority Leader and I'm sure the rest of the downstate Democrats except for Wyvetter Young from East St Louis will follow his lead.

We need to pour it onto the collar county republicans....

Jeff
 
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