elcaminoariba
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SAF has gotten more good done with their lawsuits, than any gun rights group I know of. Several of their lawsuits get piggybacked by the NRA. With the crappy economy I have scaled back my political giving BIG TIME in the last few years. Every time I see SAF file a hard hitting lawsuit such as their one yesterday to stop the interstate handgun sales ban, I feel bad for not contributing. I started feeling this way several of their lawsuits ago. SAF keeps filing lawsuits that make me say "IT'S ABOUT <removed by moderator> TIME!" and I'm disappointed at how the NRA has avoided the courts for a lot of years, and I always heard that it was out of fear of a bad ruling, and I never agreed with that defeatist logic. It's not like the federal judiciary is magically more pro 2nd amendment these days, it's just that our side has finally grown some balls.
I've been following the 2nd amendment war for many decades and I have long sensed that the NRA hugged the status quo sometimes and even was caught supporting or looking the other way at anti 2nd amendment legislation (did they even oppose the lautenberg amendment which passed a republican congress?). NRA has never pushed for "constitutional carry" but it's nice to see them cheering victories in this regard. Many long time NRA members don't like talking about the fact that NRA has changed it's attitude a LOT in the last 20 years, and put on the face of being more "hard core pro 2nd amendment" but it's true. It's nice that the NRA is huge, but frankly I don't fully trust it's executives and every board member. The media gave the NRA credit for Heller and McDonald, but those who know the history of those cases know different. Instead of one HUUUGE pro gun group dominating the landscape, which opens the door to corruption by the establishment, I prefer several very large pro gun groups that fight as a loose team. I believe that we have seen several victories recently because we have gotten closer to the model of three large groups, which has energized more gun owners. GOA and SAF and NRA have very different personalities, but I've watched as the first two have kept the NRA more true to the 2nd amendment on some legislation, and have even LED in place of the NRA. NRA needs to be more open about WHO is on the board before I will trust it. Some people have it backwards and tell us to join first so we can learn who is on the board. History (going back to 1968 and before) has shown that putting all of our eggs in the basket of the NRA has proven very dangerous to our liberties.
We have a lot to hope for with these SAF lawsuits. Local pro gun groups around the country such as Buckeye firearms are also getting some really good legislation passed.
I've been following the 2nd amendment war for many decades and I have long sensed that the NRA hugged the status quo sometimes and even was caught supporting or looking the other way at anti 2nd amendment legislation (did they even oppose the lautenberg amendment which passed a republican congress?). NRA has never pushed for "constitutional carry" but it's nice to see them cheering victories in this regard. Many long time NRA members don't like talking about the fact that NRA has changed it's attitude a LOT in the last 20 years, and put on the face of being more "hard core pro 2nd amendment" but it's true. It's nice that the NRA is huge, but frankly I don't fully trust it's executives and every board member. The media gave the NRA credit for Heller and McDonald, but those who know the history of those cases know different. Instead of one HUUUGE pro gun group dominating the landscape, which opens the door to corruption by the establishment, I prefer several very large pro gun groups that fight as a loose team. I believe that we have seen several victories recently because we have gotten closer to the model of three large groups, which has energized more gun owners. GOA and SAF and NRA have very different personalities, but I've watched as the first two have kept the NRA more true to the 2nd amendment on some legislation, and have even LED in place of the NRA. NRA needs to be more open about WHO is on the board before I will trust it. Some people have it backwards and tell us to join first so we can learn who is on the board. History (going back to 1968 and before) has shown that putting all of our eggs in the basket of the NRA has proven very dangerous to our liberties.
We have a lot to hope for with these SAF lawsuits. Local pro gun groups around the country such as Buckeye firearms are also getting some really good legislation passed.
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