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In the mind of a monster

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primlantah

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I had the opportunity to read a confession(from prison thankfully) of robbery, rape, and murder. None of the criminals involved received the death penalty(but every one of them should have).

After reading what i did, I'm left with a sick and hateful feeling in my heart. This guy did some truly horrible things to random people for petty(maybe enough to fill your gas tank) cash and got away with most of it. He did it in a city that most people feel is safe.

i'm disgusted by what i read and empathize with LEOs who deal with this crap frequently.

I intended this post as a reminder that scum lurks everywhere and you should all exercise your right to defend yourselves. Don't open your door to strangers. Lock up behind you. Your not safe anywhere you aren't aware and willing to protect yourself.

http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/10/13/texas/
 
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This guy did some truly horrible things to random people for petty(maybe enough to fill your gas tank) cash and got away with most of it
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Some do it for less than that.
 
When I was prosecuting, I handled the case of a young man (17) who raped and killed a young girl becuase he thought she was "too pretty to be with a black guy." The evidence wasn't real clear as to whether he raped her before, during, or after the strangulation. After his trial, when given an opportunity to speak to the court, his statement was "I should have started younger."

Yes, I've sat at a table with a real monster. his eyes had no life in them. And when people wonder why I carry, people like this guy top the list of reasons.
 
And the anti-gun folks want you to defeat him with words. If that doesn't work, just lie back and take it.
 
The lack of a mainstream death penalty is a big economic and social problem in this nation. There are simply a lot of people who shouldn't be here, and we should have to pay to keep them. People who rape 13 year old girl don't deserve to sit in prison with 3 meals a day, free cable and a free education. They deserve a bullet in the head and a deep grave.
 
Unfortunately the real monsters rarely get the same amount of punishment as the merely stupid. Hanging out with the wrong friends has landed many, many people in prison for decades on drug conspiracy charges. Never assaulted anyone, let alone murdered.

On the flip side, I've seen fathers who raped their daughters hundreds of times over their lives get off with a few years.

Our justice system is archaic and byzantine. None of it makes any sense, and you ABSOLUTELY cannot depend on it to protect you from the monsters.
 
There are simply a lot of people who shouldn't be here, and we should have to pay to keep them. People who rape 13 year old girl don't deserve to sit in prison with 3 meals a day, free cable and a free education. They deserve a bullet in the head and a deep grave.
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+1, but I don't think it is bounded by age. Any rapist/murderer should be done away with.
 
Not gun related.
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Sure it is. Seven of the eleven posts, including yours, mentioned the word gun,the name of a gun, carrying a gun, or shooting a projectile. If a kid had a written copy of this thread in school, they would have lynched him.
 
You guys don't understand the purpose of this forum. It's not a lynching society.

We come here to discuss, legal ownership and responsible ways to enjoy firearms.

By publicly posting your support of illegal behavior, you do nothing but give antis ammunition to fight us with.
 
it is gun related because the murderer used a gun to kill his victim. Many details are left out of this thread about the case... some you may find through a google search. I also do not see how its not gun related if it is reminding 90% of the people responding why they carry a gun in the first place.

I do not see how this fuels the antis or any of that. I also do not see how this thread in any way, shape, or form promotes illegal behavior. If anything it is raising awareness about what can happen to good people in a world where the justice system fails along with their own situational awareness. I see many threads around here about par with this.

Isnt part of being a responsible gun owner protecting yourself and your loved ones? or not selling your gun to a lunatic. There are many lessons that we can learn from the article i posted. You anti this thread people need to read the article and the linked confession.

If i'm wrong in any way then please delete this thread. But i just cannot see how its wrong to feel society has been raped by people like this.
 
Every so often in my work I am reminded why I carry. Pretty much every day we have at least one person with a mile long rap sheet and stories that would curl your hair, but once in a while we get the ones that just emit an air of pure evil.

People who torture animals because they are bored (surprisingly common!), describing horrible crimes they committed (and were convicted for) without batting an eye, etc. We usually ask them if they feel bad, remorseful, any regrets, et cetera. Occasionally we get a yes, sometimes it is even sincere, but the majority of the folks committing the most heinous crimes don't care one whit about how they affect the lives of others.

Sometimes the folks we see haven't been caught at anything terrible yet, but we end up nodding in agreement after they leave, noting "that guy gets an opportunity, Lord help the person who gives them a reason to fight or the woman caught alone somewhere with him..."

They aren't all male, but easily 9 out of 10 are. The big talkers are nothing, I'm talking about the guy who wouldn't tell you any of his stories if you didn't know to ask. My workplace encounters were what solidified my decision to carry and they are what keeps me out of condition white.

*shudder*

gp911
 
I think the original posting is fine because it helps honest people understand a little bit what they have to be prepared for in real SD/HD situations. I do intend to use firearms as well as all other means to defend myself & family.

Wanting to resort to shallow graves OTOH is not the purpose of this forum.
 
CWL, i see what you mean. Maybe future posters on this thread should take the high road in their replies... although no healthy person would feel very high road after reading the link.
 
even the people who get sanctioned by law enforcement to kill the bad guys where they stand eventually become uneasy with the idea. Race Bannon wrote a book about it that's worth the read, for sure.

That's the difference between an armed citizen and a lynch mob. I know those people are out there because I have seen them my whole life. I'm not the right arm of any god and don't ever want to be. I just know that when confronted with these evil folk, I deserve the opportunity to be able to preserve my own life with deadly force. So, I make sure I'm prepared.
 
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I'm not the right arm of any god and don't ever want to be.
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I understand the hesitation. It goes against human nature. I, however, would be more than glad to offer to serve in that position.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying I'm a bloodthirsty person. I have no overwhelming desire to kill someone, as Johnny Cash says, "Just to watch him die." However where I live the concept of law enforcement is a joke. Allow me a few examples:

A few weeks ago there was a murder in the village. When someone called for the village police to come over there was no answer at the office since it was after 2:00 in the morning. They called the person's home, a guy who lives with his mother. When his mother went to wake him up to tell him about it he refused to get up and go out there because he wanted to sleep. The victim laid out in the snow until the next day when the State Troopers came to investigate.

A few years ago a girl decided that she wanted to move in to the big city (Fairbanks isn't what most of you would think of as a big city but at about 30,000 it's huge for Alaska) to go to college. her boyfriend told her she wouldn't be going. She continued to make plans to go in. One day she was found dead. The village police ruled it a suicide. You decide: Her hands were duct taped behind her back, she was shot through the back of her throat, and she was found face down in the Yukon River. Call me crazy, but I don't think that was a suicide.

Rapes go on out here as a matter of principle. On any given weekend somebody in the village is being foced into sex against their will. All to often it's a child. The fact that this is allowed to go on without anything more than lip service being done about it makes me sick. Believe me, there are a lot of people in my village who are alive only because it's against the law for me to kill them. As a student of History and a teacher of Social Studies I am committed to the rule of law. That doesn't keep me from wishing I didn't have to be when I see what goes on out here.

How is this gun related? Well, two things: It's law enforcement related which ties the discussion to the use of firearms with both their legal and illegal use. In addition, I am THE law in my house. I see it as a necessity. My .45 by my bed, my shotgun behind my door, and my two German Shepherds to alert me of trouble.

The Second Amendment gets a work out in my home. My freedom is being upheld by it daily.
 
I understand what you're saying, alaska.
I was more referring to the people who wish that some ultimate authority would choose them to be the ones to execute the bad guys- effectively taking them off the moral hook and giving them ultimate permission. As far as I'm concerned, if you're a god, you can darn well do your own killing and you don't need me.

I'm not saying that we should turn a blind eye to trouble in the village either.
 
Everyone NEED to memorize this...

There are two types of criminals:

1.) Career criminals who make it their livelihood to terrorize the innocent.

2.) Flat out psychotic/mental/"take others with me to the grave"/suicidal criminals who will end lives at a drop of a hat.
 
I understand what you're saying, alaska.
I was more referring to the people who wish that some ultimate authority would choose them to be the ones to execute the bad guys- effectively taking them off the moral hook and giving them ultimate permission. As far as I'm concerned, if you're a god, you can darn well do your own killing and you don't need me.
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I don't think anyone is wish they could be judge, jury, and executioner. I am talking more along the lines of those criminal who are 100% guilty of heinous crimes. For instance, tell me why Charles Manson is still alive. He was found guilty in 1971, and the taxpayers have been keeping him alive for tens of thousands of dollars every year since. Why? This is simply a human being who should not be on this planet with the rest of us. He is just one example, there are others too. I'm not talking about "hanging people for stealing horses" and all that. Just those criminals who are simply pure evil. We shouldn't have to pay to keep them on Earth.
 
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