Iraq War Veteran Charged With Murder

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http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Aug-02-Tue-2005/news/26983251.html

When Matthew Sepi returned from Iraq a few months ago, he spoke to his family reluctantly of gunbattles and the "weird noises" children make when they die. He never told relatives whether he killed anyone during combat but said he recently had been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and had been placed on a waiting list for treatment.

To help shield his psyche from images of bodies, family members said, the 20-year-old soldier had adopted a simple technique: Just don't think about it.

But early Sunday morning, Army Spc. Sepi found himself thinking about killing in front of homicide detectives. They interrogated Sepi about a double shooting in a neighborhood near Las Vegas Boulevard and Sahara Avenue.

Based on Sepi's version of events, a 1 a.m. walk to a 7-Eleven proved nearly as dangerous as his tour of duty in Iraq.

According to an arrest report filed in Clark County District Court, Sepi told investigators he dressed in a black coat, tucked an assault rifle under his arm and left his apartment for a beer run.

As the 120-pound Sepi journeyed on foot and passed through a dark alley, a man and woman confronted him and yelled for him to leave the alley, police said in the report.

Sepi said the man, identified by authorities as 26-year-old Kevin Ratcliff, produced an object that he thought to be a gun and opened fire.

"(Sepi) explained that he had been trained in the military that in a situation in which he was ambushed, he was to engage the targets and retreat from the area," police wrote in the report. "He felt that the situation in the alley was an ambush, and he reacted the way he had been trained."

Sepi recalled firing four shots. Sharon Jackson, 47, fell to the ground and died at the scene of multiple gunshot wounds, police said.

Ratcliff was hit by gunfire and was taken to a hospital. He is expected to survive.

Sepi, meanwhile, had fled the shooting scene and returned to his apartment to grab more ammunition, police said. Minutes later, a police officer pulled over the infantry specialist's Oldsmobile sedan and noticed an assault rifle inside.

Sepi, an American Indian who hails from Winslow, Ariz., was arrested and booked into the Clark County Detention Center on suspicion of one count of murder and attempted murder.

Some evidence might lend credence to Sepi's self-defense story.

"We do know the victim's boyfriend (Ratcliff) got off a few rounds as well," police Lt. Tom Monahan said.

Police said they recovered a 9 mm pistol and three spent 9 mm casings at the crime scene.

Police are investigating Sepi's story that someone had pulled a knife on him, while he was unarmed, the day before the shooting.

Sepi's mother, Nora, said she had noticed changes in her son since he tried to move back to civilian life.

She said he seldom spoke of his combat but mentioned that he participated in gunbattles. But when an enemy was hit, Sepi and his fellow soldiers had a difficult time in telling precisely who had shot him.

"He said you can't tell when you're shooting from afar who killed who," Nora Sepi said.

Nora Sepi said her son, who served in the 4th Infantry Division from Fort Hood, Texas, had contacted Veterans Affairs for help with post-traumatic stress disorder.

The Department of Veterans Affairs defines PTSD as a psychiatric disorder that can induce flashbacks, nightmares and other symptoms in survivors of life-threatening episodes. The agency's Web site estimates that about 30 percent of people who spend time in war zones will suffer from the disorder.

Matthew Sepi told his mother he had requested treatment from the agency.

"He said it was going to take a while," Nora Sepi said. "He's not getting anything right now."

Veterans Affairs officials at the agency's regional office in Reno would not respond to questions about the disorder.

When questions were posed to the Army Reserve's 113th Medical Company, Combat Stress Control, in Stanton, Calif., an official deferred to a VA Web site.

But a local veteran of the Vietnam and Korean wars who has been diagnosed with PTSD said the effects are usually delayed.

"It just depends on what triggers it. If someone took a shot at me, I'm afraid I'd shoot back too," said Chad Avery, a member of Vietnam Veterans of America Chapter 17.

"It's just a reaction after a while," said Avery, a former veterans center counselor.

"God knows if you get shot at enough, it just becomes instinct," he said.

Avery said PTSD is treated by talking about the problem in individual or group sessions. Some veterans who see psychiatrists are offered anti-depressant medication to deal with the disorder.

Sepi's military mind-set is alluded to in the arrest report.

The young man used military jargon to describe his actions in the alley, calling his shoot-and-retreat strategy "breaking contact."

Police did not mention anything about PTSD in their report but indicated that Sepi became visibly upset while speaking about Sunday's shooting and his military duties in Iraq.

"He has been very nervous since returning from Iraq," a police officer wrote in the arrest report. "While working day labor, he heard a pallet fall to the ground, and was so bothered by it, he could not function for an hour."

Army officials were reviewing Sepi's personnel records Monday. A human resources official in St. Louis said Sepi was honorably discharged sometime in May and was completing his Individual Ready Reserve obligation.

Wow. I hope he gets the help he deserves. That mugger certainly did.
 
While he is waiting for the VA to act, I hope some combat veterans step up and talk with him.

We need to take care of our soldiers.
 
This definitely falls into the "don't judge until the facts are in" category.

Yes, it is conceivably possible that he's a pretty decent guy, if a bit unsusual, who took care of himself in a bad situation.

However, my gut reaction is that the guy sounds like a deeply troubled individual, and it's very possible that he may not be in the right. If it turns out that he was out wandering around looking for trouble, accosted a couple (who, legally or no, had a 9mm) and committed murder, then he's looking at a very lengthy stint in jail or a mental institution.

I'm certainly leery of a man who carries a rifle on a beer run: if you expect to go to a neighborhood where you need a rifle under your coat, should you really be going there alone, at 1AM, through a dark alley? Not questioning his Constitutional Right to carry a rifle under his coat, just questioning his motives and judgement.

Also unusual: rather than immediately report this incident to police, he drove back home for more ammo, and was only apprehended when police pulled him over and saw the rifle.

It's certainly possible that this is a genuine case of self-defense, but I'm not in a hurry to give Mr Sepi a medal until the facts are in. -MV
 
Anyone else find this statement strange?

Sepi said the man, identified by authorities as 26-year-old Kevin Ratcliff, produced an object that he thought to be a gun and opened fire.

Kind of like they were trying to say that there was some question as to whether the dead guy actually had a gun or not even after it was found that he did and fired or they are trying to say that Sepi could not have been sure it was a gun and shot him unjustifiably. Either way, looks like he "thought" right.
 
I'm certainly leery of a man who carries a rifle on a beer run: if you expect to go to a neighborhood where you need a rifle under your coat, should you really be going there alone, at 1AM, through a dark alley? Not questioning his Constitutional Right to carry a rifle under his coat, just questioning his motives and judgement.

That was my first reaction too. Upon thinking about it for a little bit though it makes sense when looked at through his (mentally scarred) eyes. He just got back from Iraq, when patrolling through dangerous neighborhoods one takes a rifle & not a pistol, he understood that the neighborhood back home was dangerous, it was just one more patrol to go on.

Also unusual: rather than immediately report this incident to police, he drove back home for more ammo, and was only apprehended when police pulled him over and saw the rifle.

I am scratching my head over that one too. Resupply drop? In his mind he was still fighting a war & if he used up all his ammo....

Lots of questions all around.
 
I thought he only fired 4 shots.

But i guess in such a situation one would go back to base and resupply, even 4 shots, in this case the base was his house?
 
Let's wait for more information before judging.

On the face of it, I am inclined to accept his story. We don't know what kind of neighborhood it is, but you can sort of guess. I do sort of wonder why anyone would WANT to make a beer run at 1:00 a.m. in a neighborhood like that, but it is supposedly a free country, so he should not have to stay locked inside his own personal fortress if he wants a beer in the middle of the night.

As to his reaction? Perfectly plausible. I ETSed directly from Vietnam in November, just too late to start graduate school so I worked for 9 months, then entered graduate school the following September. West Philadelphia wasn't the vesry best of neighborhoods back then. Even a car backfiring usually found me rolling into the nearest doorway or alley until I figured out where I was and what was happening ... and I did not (to my knowledge) have PTSD.

What is it we are always preaching? Train right, because you'll fight the way you trained?

I'd say he did.
 
Seems like it was a bit of overkill to be carrying a rifle (probably a semi auto AR-15, thank you crummy vague media for leaving out important details) though getting mugged and shot at by someone with a pistol (plus it seems there were two probable muggers, the wounded guy and the now deceased woman) would be probable cause to shoot back if that is what happened.

As to being out at 1 AM, it is summer in Las Vegas, in the really hot desert, nighttime is the only time to go out when sun makes it too hot. Throw in a just discharged soldier who is still a bit stressed from combat, nervous after being threatened by someone with a knife the previous day. Put him in a similar situation to what he faced in Iraq (in the hot desert, being shot at) and its not surprising he fell back into soldier mode (mugging actually is an ambush if you think about it) where he shoots back at attackers and retreats. Hopefully more facts will come out about this.

Either way, Sepi needs some counseling to help him deal with the war, hope he gets it soon. If they were muggers attacking him, sounds like they picked the worst person to rob in Las Vegas that night. If not, this whole thing is very, very sad.

PS. I was near that area a few months ago when I visited Las Vegas, not the best area. Though very near the Sahara casino, also near where they plan to rip down some closed bulidngs and bulid nice condos, so the area is probably going to improve fast.

It's kinda sad how 1 block off the strip, Vegas can get into bad areas that fast.
 
New News from reviewjournal.com, looks like he's getting counseling and the murder charges dropped. Good.


Authorities on Friday agreed to drop a murder charge against an Iraq war veteran who said he shot two people in self-defense. But authorities said Matthew Sepi must still receive significant mental health counseling as part of the deal.

Clark County Prosecutor Christopher Owens said under the terms of the plea negotiations, Sepi, 20, has agreed to plead guilty to two charges: felony possession of a dangerous weapon and a gross misdemeanor carrying of a concealed weapon.

In turn, prosecutors will drop a murder charge stemming from Sepi's July 31 shooting of 47-year-old Sharon Jackson and 26-year-old Kevin Ratcliff during a 1 a.m. shootout in an alleyway near Las Vegas Boulevard and Sahara Avenue.

Jackson was killed and Ratcliff was seriously injured.

Owens said under the terms of the deal finalized Friday in the courtroom of Justice of the Peace Joseph M. Bonaventure, Sepi must receive significant mental health counseling.

"He has to enter and complete a drug and alcohol treatment program, and he must also complete treatment in a post-traumatic stress disorder program through the Veterans Administration," Owens said.

According to authorities, Sepi told investigators he dressed in a black coat, tucked an assault rifle under his arm and left his apartment to get beer on the morning of the shooting. While walking through a dark alley, a man and woman confronted him and yelled for him to leave the alley, police said in reports.

Sepi said Ratcliff produced an object that he thought to be a gun and opened fire.

"(Sepi) explained that he had been trained in the military that in a situation in which he was ambushed, he was to engage the targets and retreat from the area," police wrote in the report. "He felt that the situation in the alley was an ambush, and he reacted the way he had been trained."

Authorities said Sepi fled the shooting scene and returned to his apartment to grab more ammunition, police said. Minutes later, a police officer pulled over Sepi's Oldsmobile sedan and noticed an assault rifle inside. Sepi, an American Indian from Winslow, Ariz., was arrested and booked into the Clark County Detention Center on suspicion of one count of murder and attempted murder.

Police said evidence at the scene indicated Ratcliff fired a weapon, and family members of Sepi have also said they believe Sepi was traumatized by his service in Iraq, where he served in the 4th Infantry Division.

"When I read the facts initially, it seemed clear he was justified in shooting," Owens said. "It was an issue of self-defense -- he was fired upon first, and they had been waiting for him."

If Sepi completes his counseling and does not engage in any further acts of violence and threats of violence, his case will be dismissed. However, if he fails to meet these requirements, he would once again face sentencing for the charges he is scheduled to plead guilty to in District Court.

Owens and defense attorney Nancy Lemcke of the Clark County public defender's office both praised the Veterans Administration, saying the federal agency went out of its way to arrange help for the defendant.

"We are very grateful to the VA for them helping him get treatment," Lemcke said.
 
A similar incident happened in Fla many years ago.

A Vietnam vet killed a few people , drug dealers I believe at the very least neighborhood miscreants.

His defense was a compelling tale of a flashback induced firefight with his victims.

Turns out he was never in Vietnam as his family had been led to believe, he had never even completed basic training.

The story could be true, especially with the unidentifiable bullet projecting object that was found nearby and with the scars in the nearby buildings that look eerily like fresh bullet holes and those little brass colored cylindrical pebbles lying around the scene, but it could be something else altogether
 
If Sepi completes his counseling and does not engage in any further acts of violence and threats of violence, his case will be dismissed. However, if he fails to meet these requirements, he would once again face sentencing for the charges he is scheduled to plead guilty to in District Court.

I hope he ends up without a felony conviction. That said™, the entire tale is half as clear as mud.
 
"When I read the facts initially, it seemed clear he was justified in shooting," Owens said. "It was an issue of self-defense -- he was fired upon first, and they had been waiting for him."
Hmmmm ...

So the prosecutor could see immediately that it was a good shoot, yet he went ahead and pressed charges on multiple other counts. I'm happy that the guy wasn't prosecuted for murder, but I don't think he got a fair shake nonetheless.

This case is a poster child for why there should NOT be laws prohibiting or regulating concealed carry. The bad guys made a serious error in their choice of victim, but if "citizens" were allowed uninfringed freedom to exercise their right to keep and bear arms, more bad guys might think twice about confronting unknown "victims."
 
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Sad tale but either the guy is really off his rocker or was up to something.
BTW I spent my time in the sandbox getting shot at, so I don't lack compassion or understanding of folks with PTSD.
 
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