Is Anyone Else as Fed Up With "Homeland Security" as I Am?

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First there is this article:


Washington Post
July 30, 2003
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Memo Warns Of New Plots To Hijack Jets

By Sara Kehaulani Goo and Susan Schmidt, Washington Post Staff Writers

Terrorists operating in teams of five may be plotting suicide missions to hijack commercial airliners on the East Coast, Europe or Australia this summer possibly using "common items carried by travelers, such as cameras, modified as weapons," according to an urgent memo sent last weekend to all U.S. airlines and airport security managers.

The "information circular" issued July 26 was drawn from recent intelligence reports that detail the most specific terrorist plots involving passenger aircraft in the United States since four hijacked jetliners were used in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, crashing into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a field in western Pennsylvania.

"The plan may involve the use of five-man teams, each of which would attempt to seize control of a commercial aircraft either shortly after takeoff or shortly before landing at a chosen airport," the Transportation Security Administration memo said. "This type of operation would preclude the need for flight-trained hijackers."

The threat comes just as the federal government has started to trim the nation's new airport security agency, by cutting the number of security screeners and other resources. Just one day before the memo was distributed, an official with the undercover Federal Air Marshal Service canceled what are considered some of the most vulnerable flight missions because they required marshals to spend nights in hotels, as well as cutting training for Washington-area agents next month. The official cited "monetary considerations," according to an e-mail obtained by The Washington Post.

Government officials have detected many threats of possible terrorist attacks on the United States and abroad, raising the nation's "threat level" as recently as May after suicide bombings in Riyadh, but no incidents have since occurred.

President Bush was briefed on the hijack threat yesterday by CIA Director George J. Tenet in a meeting attended by national security advisers and Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge. Officials said that the information came from one or more high-ranking al Qaeda prisoners and has been corroborated by other intelligence; the circular specifically cites "Islamic extremists" as the planners of the possible attacks.

"We continue to assess the credibility of this information while taking additional steps to plug any gaps that may be in our aviation security system," said Homeland Security Department spokesman Gordon Johndroe.

The Transportation Security Administration declined to comment on air marshal operations. Spokesman Robert Johnson said the undercover program is "is not exempt from budget realities facing the TSA."

While the information disseminated to the airlines is unusually specific, the intelligence community remains somewhat wary that the alleged hijacking plot could be a feint by al Qaeda to divert attention from a real threat elsewhere.

"That possibility is something we are looking at right now," a Homeland Security Department official said. But, he said, the threat to airliners "is consistent with previous al Qaeda methods of returning to previous places of attacks" after taking time to size up altered security.

In response to the airline threat, the department directed U.S. airlines Monday to cooperate with additional screening procedures that will begin immediately for certain international travelers to the United States who do not have U.S. visas, according to people familiar with the document. It was not clear what the new scrutiny entails.

A source familiar with the document said airlines are being asked to provide additional scrutiny at originating airports outside the United States of certain non-citizens traveling to American airports and connecting to other international destinations. "It's the most specific I've seen since we entered this new world" after the 2001 hijackings, the source said. "It's very clear to me they're taking it very, very seriously."

More than 361,000 people fit that category last year. They are people who, for example, fly from Rio de Janeiro to London with a layover in Miami, and typically do not need a U.S. visa because they are simply passing through. In such instances, travelers are directed on arrival to remain in a secure lounge during the layover.

The July 26 memo suggests that terrorists plan to exploit this visa loophole and evade authorities by taking a flight from a foreign country with less-stringent security to a U.S., European or Australian airport and then plan to hijack a second, connecting flight. "The consideration of airports in the United States, Australia and several western countries suggests the planners believe current aviation security measures can either be defeated or will not detect the hijackers and/or their weapons," the memo said.

New York's John F. Kennedy International, Newark International, Miami International, Chicago's O'Hare International, Hart Field International in Atlanta, San Francisco International, and Los Angeles International airports typically handle the most connecting international travelers.

Washington's Dulles International Airport has a secure lounge, but does not have international connecting flights. Baltimore-Washington International and Reagan National airports require visas on arriving international flights.

James May, chief executive of the Air Transport Association, which represents U.S. airlines, declined to comment on new security procedures.

Homeland Security Department officials have not raised the government's threat index, which requires stepped-up measures by local, state and federal officials throughout the country, in part, they said, because the current threat is narrowly focused on airlines. The aviation industry can increase security without the disruption of putting the entire country on high alert, one official said.

Then there is this one

U.S. May Cut Air Marshals Despite Warning
2 hours, 4 minutes ago

By LESLIE MILLER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The Transportation Security Administration wants to reduce the number of air marshals to save money, even as the government is warning about the possibility al-Qaida may try more suicide hijackings.

The TSA is seeking approval from Congress to cut $104 million from the air marshal program to help offset a $900 million budget shortfall. It's unclear how many of the estimated several thousand air marshal jobs would be affected.

"When we are faced with more priorities than we have funding to support, we have to go through a process of trying to address the most urgent needs," TSA spokesman Robert Johnson said.

News of the air marshal program cutbacks come as the Department of Homeland Security is warning of the possibility of hijackings.

A copy of the advisory, obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press, suggests an attack could take place by the end of the summer. The warning said terrorists may use five-man teams to take over airplanes just after takeoff or before landing and crash them into buildings.

"The hijackers may try to calm passengers and make them believe they were on a hostage, not suicide, mission," said the warning, which was distributed over the weekend to airlines and law enforcement agencies said. "The hijackers may attempt to use common items carried by travelers, such as cameras, modified as weapons."

It suggested cities on the East Coast, in the United Kingdom, Italy and Australia as possible targets.

"No equipment or operatives are known to have been deployed to conduct the operations," the warning said.

Officials said the credibility of the threat was still being evaluated. But they noted there was no precise information on when or where such an attack could take place.

The national terrorist threat level remained at yellow, signifying an elevated risk of attacks. The five-level, color-coded system was last raised to orange, or high risk, for 11 days in May. Officials said they did not plan to raise it to reflect the possibility of suicide hijackings.

Some complained the government still was doing too little to alert the public and key industries to terror threats.

"Our concern is that there will be bulletins put out that will not be made available to us," said Capt. Jon Safley, president of the Coalition of Airline Pilots Association, a pilots union. Safley, who doesn't fly, said he hasn't been getting warnings and wasn't sure all pilots know when advisories pertaining to air travel are issued.

Jim Schwartz, director of emergency management for Arlington County, Va., which includes both Ronald Reagan (news - web sites) Washington National Airport and the Pentagon (news - web sites), said his agency had received no warning from Homeland Security. He said he would need more specifics before increasing security based on published reports.

The warning was based on information gleaned from interviews of at least one al-Qaida prisoner as well as intercepted communications, said one intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity. The information was developed in the past several weeks.

"Cognizant of changes in aviation security measures since Sept. 11, 2001, al-Qaida is looking for new ways to circumvent enhancements in aviation security screening and tightening immigration requirements," the warning said.

Homeland Security Department placed a statement on its Web site saying the advisory was transmitted after U.S. intelligence-gatherers "received information that al-Qaida continues to be interested in using the commercial aviation system in the United States and abroad to further their cause."

In response to the advisory, the State Department on Tuesday revised an existing caution for American travelers to reflect the perceived hijacking threat.

"Terrorist actions may include, but are not limited to, suicide operations, hijackings, bombings or kidnappings. These may also involve commercial aircraft," the revised statement said.


What's Wrong With This Picture?
 
Yep. I have been thru the bozo routine with the self important dolts of airport security a couple times recently. If there are any middle aged, caucasian, upscale terrorists, I bet they caught them all, judging from the guys who were pulled to the side and searched. Meanwhile, anybody who looked foreign, dusky, or beady eyed was waved thru without a second glance. Maybe Chief Moose is in charge of the agency? :rolleyes: :barf:
 
What's Wrong With This Picture?
The pilots are still NOT ARMED.

I've had it with flying, too. I'm a 50+ male WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant) that last November got the 'Full Monty' from Airport Insecurity.

First, e-ticket confirmations didn't work. 1-hour wait for baggage claim checks. Carry-on bag gets dumped by TSA at the security checkpoint, shoes taken for "Explosive Residue Swab Test". TSA JBT refuses to put stuff back in carry-on until I am nearly screaming that he is an incompetent thief. Caught him trying to "palm" my envelope of travelers checks. Me, screaming "...That's MY Travellers Cheques in YOUR HAND ! ! ! "
Get to the departure gate, Sis-in-law gets on, wife gets on, I get yanked aside, carry-on gets dumped again, shoes stolen again. about 20 minutes later, wife is walking back up the 'jetway' ramp to see about me, but I finally get through.

The real kicker....5 age 18-34 males of obvious Mid-East background go through 'Security" without a single question, 3 get on my flight, without question at the gate. They were speaking in a foriegn language, and I KNOW it wasn't "Latin American" Spanish.

Even worse on return from cruise ship...INS buffoons are looking at my DL/Passport/Birth Cert, 2 of 3 have my picture, and they claim "This isn't you, sir". Luggage gets the full search by Customs, and I get the same double-dump and residue check of bag & shoes at Miami airport.
 
If there are any middle aged, caucasian, upscale terrorists, I bet they caught them all, judging from the guys who were pulled to the side and searched. Meanwhile, anybody who looked foreign, dusky, or beady eyed was waved thru without a second glance.
AMEN TO THIS! It matches my last flying observation almost exactly. The ONE and ONLY ONE obvious foreigner or "person of color" selected for a search among the many who were on my flight was an young attractive black woman, who was obviously being "hit on" by the young, not so attractive black male screener.
 
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Homeland security was written into the Constitution over 211 years ago. The words are right there in the Second Amendment, but because “our†government has ignored the highest law in the land and illegally suppressed our sovereign right to bear arms, we have been left at the mercy of terrorists and other criminals.

~G. Fink, preaching to the choir …
 
no pain, no gain

Now if I were a cynic I'd believe that careerism, in anything
bureaucratic, always trumps real needs. It's not about national
security, it's about advancement, retirement packages, CYA, and
flow-charts. Mineta is there because Karl Rove told Bush that
Mineta is good for Bush's political image when they are forced
to check off slots on the Diversity Program. He should have been
ousted long ago.

There will be no significant improvements until there is another
9/11. That's my bet. And that's an awful, awful thing.
 
I wll wait to start flying again until I, as a paying passenger, am allowed to use any means I deem necessary to defend myself onboard a commercial aircraft.
 
The threat comes just as the federal government has started to trim the nation's new airport security agency, by cutting the number of security screeners and other resources


There is your answer, TSA,HLS are just ploys to make the bloated government huger and more costly. Got to justify their existance.
 
I think Homeland Security and TSA exist for two reasons. Number one and most important..to give the President a scapegoat for when the next atack comes and provide him political cover. the president can say; "It's not my fault, Tom Ridge failed." And secondary to fool the sheeple into believing the government is actually trying to fulfill it's obligation to provide for the common defense.

Jeff
 
Is Anyone Else as Fed Up With "Homeland Security" as I Am?
YEP
The sheeple bought into this "the gummit gonna take care of me" stuff, years ago and its become increasingly worse. Sheeple get all worked up, get the gummit to pass new laws, to appease them. Gummit also erodes a little bit more of our freedoms each time. Vicious circle I'm tired of.

No ,as pointed out we have always had Homeland Security , these sheeple just don't know it.

I've said it before , but I was raised different, we had guns, knew how to use them. We just had "stuff" for anything around the house. Tornadoes, floods, riots...whatever.

Yes we did the Civil Defense Drills and knew where the shelters were, when Cuba pointed missles at us for instance...but we darn sure didn't rely on the gummit being the sole source of taking care of us.

Jiminey, I have neighbors that don't even have candles or flashlights, can't cook, and probably couldn't figure out how to open a can with a can opener--they do well to open a soda can with a pull tab...

I'll fly low , where I have some control over matters...and can have the means to control a matter if one should arise. arrgghh !
 
I'm fed up with George Bush mandating expensive security procedures and leaving the states to pick up the tab. If he gives a crap about winning the war on terrorism, he should put his money where his mouth is.

Just heard on the news today they are backing off the requirments for air marshalls on commercial flights because nobody can afford the cost.
 
U.S. Says It Will Not Cut Air Marshals
Wed Jul 30, 6:06 PM ET
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By Deborah Charles

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Department Homeland Security, which just warned the airline industry of possible new al Qaeda hijackings, on Wednesday denied reports it was cutting back on the number of air marshals deployed on flights.



Media reports of possible cutbacks in the number of armed undercover agents on U.S. flights sparked angry reactions on Capitol Hill. But department officials said the reports were wrong.

"The federal air marshal program is a critical piece of the Department of Homeland Security's aviation security defenses," said spokesman Brian Roehrkasse. "There are no plans to cut the federal air marshal program at this time or reduce their number of missions. Statements to the contrary are erroneous."

Roehrkasse was responding to reports that air marshals had been advised of possible schedule cutbacks, particularly on longer flights, in order to save money.

Thousands of federal air marshals have been deployed on U.S. airlines since the Sept. 11, 2001, hijacked airliner attacks. The agents are authorized to use deadly force.

Homeland Security's Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has about a $900 million budget shortfall and has been trying to pare spending.

The media reports said some savings would be made by dropping coverage on some flights and said air marshals had received e-mails advising of changes to their schedule.

But Roehrkasse said operations were continuing as before and marshals would still be deployed on "critical" flights. He said some planned spending -- like for advanced training and increased administrative staff -- for fiscal 2003 would be postponed as part of efforts to cut costs.

One Homeland Security official said the e-mail was an "unauthorized" message sent out to some air marshals' field offices. He did not know the actual contents of the e-mail but said it "did not represent guidance as approved by the TSA and (Homeland Security) leadership."

The reports of cutbacks came a day after Homeland Security said it had warned the airline industry that al Qaeda could be planning new suicide hijackings and bombings in the United States and abroad.

The advisory said the danger ran until at least the end of the summer and warned that al Qaeda was looking for ways to circumvent enhanced aviation security.

In a speech in Washington, Ridge vowed the department was working hard to ensure aviation safety and said "every air marshal that we have is being deployed and additional resources are being directed to that very critical mission."

Reports of possible cutbacks sparked angry reaction by Democrats who have accused Republicans of underspending for homeland security.

"Cuts in air marshals should not happen now or ever -- you simply cannot put a price on American lives," said Sen. Barbara Boxer
 
we'll see

When your sister-in-law gets married in california, you have 3 days off, and you want to remain alive in one piece and happily married- you get on that damned airplane!

So my 7&1/2 month pregnant, caucasian wife and our 2 year old (also caucasian) son with his little kiddie backpack full of books and toys and his 'travel bear' are leaving tomorrow.
I follow a bit later.

We'll see how it goes. i am 'pre-pissed-off' just thinking about it.

So far, we've been thoroughly searched every time.

I'd happily refuse to fly ever again, but like I said above, as Spanky says, "when ya gotta, ya gotta"
C-
 
What about this...

Limburger cheese and putrescine. In a ziplog bag. With a metal cheese grater.

Now, the TSA goons will never in a million years let someone onto a plane with something as dangerous as a cheese grater, so with everyone watching, they'll open the bag and make the concourse uninhabitable for about 100 years.
 
I think it's easy to be critical when you aren't the one making the tough decisions.

I think that Pres. Bush has been doing a pheneomanal job and I completely support how he is dealing with terrorism after 9 11.
 
Dont Laugh, I once saw Moe light into Curly and Larry's heads with a cheese grater. Took some hair off Larry, but Curly's hard head bent the teeth on the grater.

OHOHOOOOOHHH, Look NNUCKNNUCKNNYUC.

WOOOOOB WOOB WOOOOB WOOB.

The Stooges would have had great fun with the TSA, if they were still around.

;)
 
CMichael,

Interesting post.

I'm wondering how much money, legislative time, and consumer aggravation the government could have saved by authorizing CCL holders and pilots to carry on flights instead of spending more money hiring more US Marshalls.

As I see it, losening the restrictions on a right that is not granted to us by the government anyway would be a far more effective method of terrorist control than the further tightening of restrictions.

[sarcasm]Oh, but self government wasn't the intent of the founding fathers anyway, was it?[/sarcasm]
 
yup..it removes the leash and allows the powers that be to do whatever they want,when they want and where they want.nothing is considered private.nothing.
 
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