minutemen1776
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No, I had not messed with it at all. I'm not sure who made the trigger parts. My lower was supposedly built using a mil-spec LPK on a stripped lower by a friend who's an FFL/gunsmith.
Is the RRA NM 2-stage trigger worth it?
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Justin
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The Rock River National Match two-stage trigger is a good buy. I've yet to suffer any ill effects from having one installed in a gun, and it vastly improves the trigger. Claims about them reducing reliability may be true out on the very margins, but even under heavy competition use I've not seen them cause a gun to fail.
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I have some rifles I piddle with - tune triggers, glass-bed, etc etc, and some I don't. The ones I don't mess with will be my first line of defense for our apocalypse, but the others get the superb RRA triggers, springs, polishing, bling, etc etc. If I had just one, I'd probably keep it pretty close to stock, but having >1, I get to play. Always have an Ace in the hole...
I have some rifles I piddle with - tune triggers, glass-bed, etc etc, and some I don't. The ones I don't mess with will be my first line of defense for our apocalypse, but the others get the superb RRA triggers, springs, polishing, bling, etc etc. If I had just one, I'd probably keep it pretty close to stock, but having >1, I get to play. Always have an Ace in the hole...
this gun has a rra 2-stage trigger and had 15,000 rnds on it (when i stopped counting 2 yrs ago) including 3 carbine classes and lots of matches. i've never had any problem with the trigger.
but... i know of several that have failed. i consider myself lucky.
Got a Bill Springfield 4lb kit with speed hammer coming my way.
I like that the stock parts are retained, just enhanced.
I ordered the set rather than sending mine in so I always have a backup..and I plan on doing some shooting on my 4-day weekend coming up!
Range report on the CMMG kit and the trigger will follow once everything arrives and finds it's proper place.
I like that the stock parts are retained, just enhanced.
I ordered the set rather than sending mine in so I always have a backup..and I plan on doing some shooting on my 4-day weekend coming up!
Range report on the CMMG kit and the trigger will follow once everything arrives and finds it's proper place.
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Even if it fails every 10,000 rounds the issue is this. How many people track there round count in there weapons. So what happen when you get to 8-9 thousand rounds and you get into a shooting situation. Do you want to be concerned that the trigger may have broken when you need it the most? Murphys law applies to everything so I would rather have a heavy trigger pull when my life is on the line than wonder if something happened. Just my 2 penny's.
The Rock River trigger sold me on my first AR, and my next build used it as well. My smith tells me that their parts kits tend to be hardened better than generics. I will never build the round counts discussed above, and if I did, I would be inside the gun improving and replacing as I went.
The RR NM trigger helps improve accuracy inexpensively. If ruggedness is the prime factor, you may be on the wrong platform.
The RR NM trigger helps improve accuracy inexpensively. If ruggedness is the prime factor, you may be on the wrong platform.
Justin
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By this argument, you shouldn't ever shoot your rifle, either, since 10,000 rounds is about where a lot of barrels wear out and lose accuracy.
minutemen1776
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Good point Justin.
In reading through this thread, I'm struck by the seeming reverence for the AR15's stock trigger. For a platform that is heralded for its modularity and the ability to be upgraded or customized in just about every way, including for defensive uses, why should we expect dire consequences if the trigger is upgraded as well?
In reading through this thread, I'm struck by the seeming reverence for the AR15's stock trigger. For a platform that is heralded for its modularity and the ability to be upgraded or customized in just about every way, including for defensive uses, why should we expect dire consequences if the trigger is upgraded as well?
it's not really reverence. it's just that the stock trigger is very reliable because it is not crisp at all, has no adjustments or screws, is a heavy weight, etc.
there may be more reliable triggers out there made from better parts. really the problem is people who think they're making a "SHTF" gun, and try to put a match trigger in it
if you're making a varmint or match gun and reliability isn't your goal, by all means, go get a match trigger!
there may be more reliable triggers out there made from better parts. really the problem is people who think they're making a "SHTF" gun, and try to put a match trigger in it
if you're making a varmint or match gun and reliability isn't your goal, by all means, go get a match trigger!
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