Just given a .32 centre fire

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JG727

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I was just given a Hopkins & Allen revolver.

The markings are as follows:

Hopkins & Allen M'F'G Co.
Pat. Mch 28.71 May 27.79

XL No. 3
32 Cal. Centre Fire

It has a spur trigger, Octagonal barrel,


Can anyone tell me which .32 caliber ammunition it fires?

Thanks!
J
 
hmmmmmmmmm.......

32 centre fire?could it be 320 revolver?:confused:whatever the case dimensions it is black powder round and long obsolete,not much muzzel velocity,but good for skunks and snakes at close range.......not to close to the skunk now.......better have some tomato juice on hand LOL........:eek:
 
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Unfortunately, .32 S&W black powder loads are not obtainable, unless you load your own. But modern .32 S&W is loaded to not exceed the pressures most of those old guns will take. I know all the warnings and cautions, but I have fired hundreds of rounds of .32 S&W smokeless loads in old guns and none blew up, killed me, or wiped out the county. I do advise that if you do decide to fire those old guns, take a few shots just to see what they are like, but don't stretch your luck by overdoing it.

Jim
 
Ok, Can you post a picture of your bore, so we can tell better if its safe to fire?
If the bore is in good shape, has no black powder corrosion from the forcing cone back for the first 1" or so, you might get by with smokeless loads.

With patent dates of 1871 and 1879 it was intended to fire black powder rounds. Not smokeless. It won't be a smokeless round for another 20 or 30 years.
 
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I do have access to reloading equipment so I will try to load a couple reduced power smokeless rounds. Now I just need brass...

I had a gunsmith friend check it out, he said it was in pretty good working order.


If I wanted to load black powder loads, would I use the same powder used for muzzleloading shooting?
 
.32CF

Could be .32 S&W, .320 Revolver, .32 Short Colt.

Both the .320 Rev. and the .32 Short Colt use heeled bullets (though some .32 Colt use a smaller, inside lubed bullet.)
BP capacity of the .32 S&W is 9grs. under an 85 grain bullet.
The Colt cartridge uses about half that charge according to CotW.
I have a F&W Bulldog in .32 CF. I use .32 S&W cases and heeled bullets
Heeled bullets as well as BP loaded ammo are available from GAD Custom Cartridges.
.32 S&W smokeless ammo can be had from MidwayUSA, among others. Brass is available. Natchez Shooters has brass for the .32 Short Colt. IIRC, Winchester still loads .32 Short Colt ammo, albeit smokeless.
Pete
 
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Show some pictures if you have them, I would love to see it.

If you are new to BP and if you're going to shoot BP loads, wash er up good with soap and hot water inside and out immediately after shooting. When I shoot BP (in my cap and ball's), I fill a cut-off 1/2 gallon milk jug with hot soapy water. I dip the field stripped gun into it down almost to the grips, and give her a good scrub inside and out. I then rinse with hot water, and spray her down well with some displacing oil like WD-40. She then goes in the oven on low temp for 15 minutes or so, until she's pretty warm to the touch. I make sure all the water comes out of the action, and then I oil her up.

The spray down with WD before drying really helps keep rust spots from forming while she's in the oven drying. When I first started BP shooting, my gun rusted in just the few minutes it was drying in the oven, using the WD stopped this from happening. BP's fun, but it's a pain afterward, and oh, and if you pass gass in the next day or so afterward, it smells just like the BP smoke.

Unfortunately, BP corrodes about everything it touches, which includes cases. Black powder residue contains oxides of nitrogen, sulphur, and potassium salts, all of which are very hygroscopic (and will turn into acids as they absorb water from the air). So get it all clean very quickly after shooting. If you value your cases, which have all become pretty pricy lately, you'll want to wash them in soap and water too after firing. They're all gonna be hick green by the time you get home. Another caveat, BP is somewhat corrosive even before it's fired (it contains potassium nitrate which is a salt), and will corrode out your loaded brass from the inside as it sits. I have always been afraid to load any BP cartridges for the same reason I won't shoot corrosive ammo in the guns I care about.

Anyway, good luck with your vintage piece. I have an old H&R top-break in .32 (needs some work), and someday I'll get her shooting again.
 
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I looked it up before I told you. Hopkins and Allen chambered for 32 S&W,

.320 and 32 Colt short have different dimensions. Not interchangeable.

Some thing to do with HEELED bullets.

Ref. Frank Barnes,Cartridges of the World, pg. 154 published,1976 3rd edition.
 
I know a man who lost his right index finger when an old top break .32 blew up. BE CAREFULL!
 
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