KelTec P11 or PF-9

[tomwalshco]

I guess that's another check mark on the PF9 side.

 

[Caliper_Mi]

I thought all handguns had to be "drop safe" nowadays....is that only certain states?

Free states let you own whatever gun you like. Just be aware of what you have and be responsible.

 

[19-3Ben]

Depends on the purpose you have in mind for the gun. If you need a very small, slim gun to act as a backup, then the PF9 would seem to fit the bill.
If you are looking for a slightly better all-around gun, that would offer more capacity in the roll of a "primary carry" then the P11 warrants consideration.

It's a little bigger and thicker, but for that trade-off you get a more shootable platform for practice at the range, and nearly double the capacity with the S&W 12 round mags.
I can't think of a smaller, lighter 12+1 gun available on the market. That's a lot of firepower relative to the size of the gun.

 

[Mike1234567]

^^^ It uses S&W 15 round mags too. K-T makes slip-on mag extensions for both 12 and 15 round mags. Mine function flawlessly.

 

[MCgunner]

I can have the gun at ready one-handed I do want a drop safety... and thumb safety.

I've dropped mine before, not off a 10 story building, just in the kitchen that I can remember. Didn't go bang. And, what I like about the P11s long trigger is I don't need no stinkin' thumb safety. If I wanted a thumb safety, I'd just carry a cocked and locked 1911. I carry my P11 in a pocket, though, something hard to do with any 1911. It's perfectly safe in a pocket with that trigger.

 

[MCgunner]

Doesn't Springfield use a titanium firing pin in their 1911 to pass the drop test? I wonder if that would work for the P11, as well as allow for a lighter hammer spring & trigger pull.

They use a very light hammer with the pivot located such that there is no hammer inertia if dropped. They must use a somewhat heavy (it's all relative, i shoot DA revolvers) hammer spring so that there is enough hammer inertia to fire the gun. That's why there's a strong hammer spring. Lighten the spring, you'll have to add weight to the hammer. I think you've got it bass ackwards.

 

[gb6491]

Supposedly, a Wolff 5% Extra power Firing Pin Spring will give you a little more wiggle room if you happen to drop your P11 on it's muzzle: http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/droptestresults.htm
Regards,
Greg

 

[il.bill]

I just put 50 rounds through my P11 yesterday. It has worked flawlessly for the first 150 rounds fired. It is a nasty little gun, not very much fun to shoot, but it is more accurate than I am at ten yards and packs a good wallop.
The trigger sucks (a piece of electrical wiring 'shrink wrap' made mine more comfortable), and the recoil bites my hand, but I like it for what it is: a small, simple, effective, and powerful handgun with a ten round magazine.
I paid $251 including tax a month ago at my LGS.

 

[MCgunner]

I don't buy this "not drop safe" stuff unless maybe the firing pin spring is missing.

To each his own, though. Mine's in my pocket as I type this, one up the spout.

 

[sm]

P-11

In the early days I did some testing and evaluations for some "special folks" on the P-11.
Later, much later, I would shoot a PF-9.
Just me, but the "perceived recoil" is less on the PF-11, and I have over 50,000 rounds through the P-11 platform.
No. I no longer own a P-11 , none of the guns given to me having tested or any other "plastic" pistol.