Leaving mag loaded question

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"Magazines which are kept fully loaded for long periods of time, such as in law enforcement and personal/home defense applications, will generally be subject to more fatigue than the weekend shooter's magazine springs in which the magazines are loaded up only when shooting."

*From Wolffs FAQ http://www.gunsprings.com/faq#Faq5
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This coming from a company who sells springs.
 
bigfatdave said:
I know that a sticky won't prevent the questions, but it could be used as a reference if it was set up with cites and a well-laid-out format.
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The problem is that there shouldn't be any cites or docs needed, as this used to be taught in high school science class.
 
Strahley said:
Springs wear out by constant compressing/decompressing, not by sitting compressed over a period of time. Load your mags up and forget about it!
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Yes and no. While it's true that fatigue due to a number of cycles on a spring will reduce the tensile strength of the material it would take literally tens of thousands of cycles to significantly reduce the tensile strength of a spring. And a well-engineered spring will only be reduced to approximately half the tensile strength at that point, with the spring stiffness virtually unchanged.

On the other hand, it's static overloading that causes springs to take a set due to plastic deformation of the material. In the quest for smaller and smaller packages and higher and higher capacities the firearms manufacturers are pushing the envelope of static loading and some spring designs will definitely take a set after being fully loaded for some time.
 
Does leaving your car sitting on it's springs wear then out?:what:

Answer that correctly and you'll answer the mag spring question.

You may phone a friend if needed:)
 
IMTHDUKE said:
Does leaving your car sitting on it's springs wear then out?:what:

Answer that correctly and you'll answer the mag spring question.

You may phone a friend if needed:)
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Sure, just look at how grandma's 40 year old, 40,000 miles, 4 door Dodge Dart and the likes sit.....Are they fatigued from too many miles? :neener:
 
IMTHDUKE said:
I did not consider that he was goin keep a loaded mag for 40 years...:D
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People do the damnedest things. :eek:....There's this old timer who's been trying to hunt ducks on his farm pond for 40 years.....says he's been putting the same two shells in that old double for 40 years and has never got to shoot 'em.

I asked him if he ever considered those shells may be bad luck or worse yet may not work when the ducks finally come. :banghead:
 
Yep, and I bet they don't know as much about making grips as you, nor would they claim to.....Likewise what they and you know about springs.
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My point, selling springs is in their best interest. People might look at it funny if I posted all kinds of information about how changing your guns' grips could improve your accuracy. People may say, that coming from a guy who benefits when people buy multiple sets of grips.

You missed the basis of my statement. Wolff's knowledge of the subject was never addressed or question. Simply the irony of a company who sells springs providing information that promotes changes in springs.
 
Olympus said:
My point, selling springs is in their best interest. People might look at it funny if I posted all kinds of information about how changing your guns' grips could improve your accuracy. People may say, that coming from a guy who benefits when people buy multiple sets of grips.

You missed the basis of my statement. Wolff's knowledge of the subject was never addressed or question. Simply the irony of a company who sells springs providing information that promotes changes in springs.
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Maybe because it's a fairly sound practice to consider? Maintaining your firearms that is. ;)
 
Still missing the point...

Put it to you like this: Which is more likely? Is Wolff truly concerned about maintaining my gun? Or do you think they might have a little vested interest in the matter and that interest might be more important than maintaining your gun?

Do you think they're a business with profit statements and sales figures to think about or do you think they're the Unicef of the gun culture and just want to ensure everyone's guns are maintained? That's the irony I'm talking about.

:banghead:
 
I'm not missing your point at all. Wolff doesn't use this as a sales slogan. It was under FAQ and their statement reads very similar to what many of the firearm manufactures recommend also.

I suppose they all just want to sell a bunch of springs to boost their sales to a new stratosphere :scrutiny:......and the auto manufactures all just want to sell a bunch of spark plugs and air filters for the same reason. :rolleyes:
 
and the auto manufactures all just want to sell a bunch of spark plugs and air filters for the same reason.
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Actually, they've been selling you 3000 mile oil changes for decades.
And blinker fluid.
And "installation fees" on wipers
And "finder's fees" or "delivery fee" on cars on the lot

While Wolff is a reputable company, I'm sure they wouldn't mind selling you springs early. My barber says I need a haircut more often, too.

That being said, there's no reason not to have a few spare springs on hand, it at least helps troubleshooting and springs are fairly cheap.
 
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