"Lock and Load"?

[catspa]

Rellian, then could we also say of the minuet men that they were "rammed and crammed"? And when the minuet was over, they would "stop and drop" until the music started up once more?

"Twirl your partner with a grin, back her up and twirl again, do-si-do and twirl some more, catch her 'fore she hits the floor."

Parker, trying to increase his cadential assonance...

 

[shiftyer1]

I don't know where the term came from but I always lock the slide open on my pistols the insert mag when I load them.

 

[Hungry Seagull]

I recall Von Stuben with fondness. Didnt they tease the man while he tried to teach the basic manual at arms?

I believe that we are still using his methods today at drill.

Nein nein nein! Nicht wie das! Wie DIES!


"No no no! NOT like THAT! like THIS!"

 

[Rellian]

Nein nein nein! Nicht wie das! Wie DIES!

Don't forget "Nein sie Dumbkopf!! Scheißt!!!! Haben sie einen Gehirn?!!"



(my German may be rusty)

 

[Rellian]

could we also say of the minuet men that they were "rammed and crammed"? And when the minuet was over, they would "stop and drop" until the music started up once more?

If you like. (but I would never say it to their faces)

"Twirl your partner with a grin, back her up and twirl again, do-si-do and twirl some more, catch her 'fore she hits the floor."

Very cadencial, but not much assonance (though the word I should have used originally was alliteration.... my apologies.)

 

[Hostile Amish]

Possibly, in the days of blackpowder, they cocked the hammer, then put in the powder and ball. I have no experience with blackpowder weapons, so I wouldn't know.

It could also mean to lock (as in lock back the bolt) and load (insert the magazine and release the bolt catch). In the days of the G3 rifle this may had made a lot of sense.

 

[kanook]

do the Chinese yell "Rock n Road"

 

[Vern Humphrey]

Possibly, in the days of blackpowder, they cocked the hammer, then put in the powder and ball. I have no experience with blackpowder weapons, so I wouldn't know.

No. No revolver was loaded in the cocked configuration.

For a revolver to function, the cylinder must be under control at all times -- you wouldn't want it to rotate backwards, for example.

There is one point in the cocking cycle that allows you to advance the cylinder, one chamber at a time, by hand. When you put the hammer in the loading notch, you are at that point.

 

[Hungry Seagull]

tsk tsk tsk... cocking the hammer and putting in the powder and ball.

The hammer is left DOWN on the cap nipple while the gun is charged with the powder and shot. THEN the gun is rammed then you raised the weapon to ready with a cap in hand at half cock. Need to be at this position before the Infantry officer behind your line of battle can see that you are in a position to execute his fire order when ready.

Need about 18 seconds or so to complete the evolution. Drill, drill and more drill until it becomes mindless automation. But dont be so mindless as to forget to take the rammer OUT (And stowed) prior to raising the gun.

Some civil war weapons were found to have been loaded over and over until entire barrel was filled with powder, wad, shot, powder, wad, shot all the way to the muzzle. Apparently due to a mental defect affecting the soldier under combat stress at the time.

Others were found with rammers still in them

And some weapons simply failed when a soldier loaded his powder, wad and leadball, another leadball and still another leadball ....

Now we can talk about the repeaters, the kind you load on sunday and shoot all week as one unit referred to them.

One soldier at Antietam was shot dead so fast that his body was remain frozen at the time of his death in middle of loading balanced just so. It is my understanding the kill shot that went through the heart shut him down while he was racing to load.

 

[Rellian]

That's one of the reasons they all marched around in a big group. (that and the face muskets had an accuracy of $#!%) so if your gun did not go off at least the guy next to you statistically would have better luck.

 

[Drail]

We were taught in basic training - "On the command "lock and load" you will lock a magazine into the weapon and load a round into the chamber".

 

[one shot one kill]

i am not sure but i think it means to lock the mag into the gun then put one into the chamber that eould load it by the way does any one know of agood cheap place for hog hunting

 

[rcmodel]

but i think it means to lock the mag into the gun then put one into the chamber

It was in common Army usage before army rifles had magazines.
The M-1 Garand I was issued specifically.

rc

 

[61chalk]

rcmodel...next time I'm out with my Garand I'm yelling "Lock an Load that 8rd. enbloc!!!!"

 

[Walter]

it means that you're getting ready to go into harm's way on behalf of your country.

Only if the rifle range at Ft. Jackson is in harm's way. No one would be silly enough to be barking range orders in combat

Silly or not it happened. When I was a MUCH younger man I was a grunt Marine
serving with the 3rd Btn., 26th Marines in S. Vietnam. Our Btn. was stationed
aboard the USS Tripoli, LPH 10. The ship sailed up and down the coastline of
northern South Vietnam and every time the "shtf", helicopters full of combat-
ready Marines would head for wherever it was. They called it an "amphibious assault".
Ship regulations dictated that NO weapons could be loaded aboard ship.
So the instant those CH 46s crossed over dry land, the senior Marine
aboard, be it a gunny or an officer, shouted "Lock and Load!" And
usually within 15 to 20 minutes, we were in a combat situation.

Walter