Look what NRO has to say.....Note the slight against innocents betrayed.

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http://www.nationalreview.com/issue/douthat200411300848.asp

So, You Want To Win the Culture Wars?
It would help to engage in a little culture.

By Ross Douthat

EDITOR'S NOTE: This article appears in the December 13, 2004, issue of National Review.

I've never attended a major film festival, but it's a safe bet that none of them — not Venice or Cannes, not Sundance or Toronto — begins its Saturday-night screening with the Pledge of Allegiance. Or opens nearly every film with a "support-our-troops" montage of military photos, set to a pulsing rock beat. Or passes around collection boxes for the "Wounded Warrior Project," and invites filmgoers to write letters of encouragement to U.S. troops abroad.
Into this breach has stepped the American Film Renaissance festival, which debuted in Dallas this September in a strip-mall movie theater sandwiched between sprinkler-fed subdivisions and a Smoothie King. Billing itself as "the nation's first and only conservative film festival," the AFR weekend was a cheerfully ramshackle affair, where left-wing journalists milking the weekend for laughs easily outnumbered movie stars. And that's only if Timothy Bottoms — whose Showtime-produced Bush hagiography, DC 9/11: Time of Crisis, was screened on opening night — really counts as a star at all.

The festival was the brainchild of Jim and Ellen Hubbard, she a chipper trial attorney with bouffant hair, he a heavyset man with the hangdog air of a less-than-ruthless Harvey Weinstein. "It was a labor of love," Jim told me, and so it would seem, since the couple raised most of the necessary money from family and friends (their only sponsors were a local talk-radio station and WorldNetDaily), screened and selected every entrant themselves, and spent most of the festival scrambling around with walkie-talkies, keeping the theaters full, the soda flowing, and the films running on time.

The one thing they couldn't do, alas, was find enough good films to fill even a longish afternoon, let alone a weekend. The festival's movies were often awful in fascinating ways, but they were awful nonetheless. Sometimes — as in the piously minded Beyond 'The Passion of the Christ': The Impact — the filmmaker assembled reams of interesting footage and then simply threw it all on screen, with little sense of editing or narrative drive (and a cloyingly preachy voice-over). Other films were more slickly packaged but still lousy, like libertarian radio host Larry Elder's pro-gun, anti-Michael Moore polemic Michael and Me, or the soullessly polished George W. Bush: Faith in the White House. Still others were painfully tone-deaf, like Innocents Betrayed, which could have passed for a History Channel documentary about genocide, save for a narrator intoning — over shots of piled Cambodian skulls or trains bound for Bergen-Belsen — that gun control inevitably leads to state-sponsored mass murder. (Innocents Betrayed, I later learned, was produced by the Wisconsin-based Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership. Make of that what you will.)

So there was nothing in Dallas to make liberal Hollywood quake in its boots, and much to make it chuckle derisively: Stars-and-Stripes hats and "I Luv Halliburton" T-shirts, a ubiquitous British journalist peddling grievances against the BBC and the Guardian, and an almost pathological obsession with Michael Moore among filmmakers and audience members alike. (Though to be fair, the weekend's second anti-Moore flick — Michael Moore Hates America, by a twentysomething documentarian named Mike Wilson — was easily the festival's finest, and funniest, effort.)
 
that gun control inevitably leads to state-sponsored mass murder.

Errr....no, that's not the point IB made.

IIRC, it was that state sponsored mass murder wasn't possible unless gun control was put into place first.

But then again, your garden variety dick and jane voter are under the dual impression that it both "can't happen here", and that "reasonable gun control is OKeeydokee".
 
(Innocents Betrayed, I later learned, was produced by the Wisconsin-based Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership. Make of that what you will.)

What I make of it is that there are at least some Jews who do not desire to see themselves and their families shoved into cattle cars, where they'd be starved for a week in a cold and wet place with one bucket for 100 people to use for personal sanitation, and then hustled off to poison gas showers at gun- and vicious dog-point, at least not without a fight.

Why does NRO seem to have a problem with that concept?
 
It seemed like the article was criticizing the unevolved state of right wing propaganda filmmaking compared to Michael Moore, who is currently at the vanguard of the movement. I dont like Michael Moore (mostly because of the stupid columbine movie) but I recognize that F9/11 was a well done film and he is an effective propagandist.
 
I've never attended a major film festival, but it's a safe bet that none of them — not Venice or Cannes, not Sundance or Toronto — begins its Saturday-night screening with the Pledge of Allegiance.

I read that first sentence and thought it was going to be about movies on military bases or in American communities around Embassies. Every movie I went to at the American theater in Plittersdorf, West Germany (back when I was in high school) played the national anthem before it started. Everyone got up and held their hands over their hearts. So I was all prepared when I went to movies on post once I was in the US Army. There would be a hush and a bunch of very serious people standing while the anthem played. And then a loud "huhah" would go up at the end.

Maybe we would all be better Americans if that happened in the civilian theaters!

Gregg
 
Innocents Betrayed, I later learned, was produced by the Wisconsin-based Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership. Make of that what you will.

And the Holocaust Museum has a largely Jewish management and volunteer staff. What a big suprise. :rolleyes:
 
Innocents Betrayed, I later learned, was produced by the Wisconsin-based Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership. Make of that what you will.

What am I even supposed to make of it? That the jews in Poland and Germany didn't have the ability to own firearms in 1944 and paid dearly? That perhaps we should learn from that and never let something like it happen again, and again, and again? What else now?
 
NRO publishs anti-gun control articles often. I suspect they were critisizing the quality of the film only. I have not seen it.
 
I wouldn't call NRO neo-conservative. NRO is Buckley's magazine. The Weekly Standard is more neo-conservative.( meaning liberals who became conservatives in the 1970's and 1980's) NRO does not always have anti-gun articles. I think the term neo-conservative is a quasi made up term that no one including me knows what it means. It can have many meanings depending on who is using it. It has just recently been used by the left and Pat Buchanan like the world fascist is used loosely and in many ways. I thought the article was not very well written and did not say much of anything. Oh the Left uses the word neo-conservative in a very anti-jewish manner. It is even used that way in the Middle East press. You know like the JOOOOES are running the USA. So I refuse to use the term. :rolleyes:
 
Here's the Wikipedia entry for neo-cons. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism_(United_States)

(I quoted the meat of it)

As a rule, the term refers more to journalists, pundits, policy analysts, and institutions affiliated with the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) and with Commentary and The Weekly Standard than to more traditional conservative policy think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and Heritage Foundation or periodicals such as Policy Review or National Review.

All in all, I can't think of anything that I'd change in the description.
 
But then again, your garden variety dick and jane voter are under the dual impression that it both "can't happen here"

Of course, one imagines that the average American Indian, circa 1880, might have had a slightly different opinion.
 
El Tejon

Sam Adams, never forget the culture component of "gun control." NRO is staffed by East Coast Eloi.

To Eloi government is God and all safety is derived from it. To the Neocon it is not that government is bad per se, only a matter of who controls the government.

Well, if the Eloi get control of the gov't and act like a bunch of dictators, then The Reset Button would be as called for as it would be with the Hillary end of the political spectrum.

I'm afraid that Franklin was right: "A Republic, if you can keep it." It is all about power. He and the other Founders knew that we couldn't keep it forever, but their design made it last longer than any other free nation in modern history (Switzerland excepted). They are all rolling in their graves at how their sacrifices have been tossed away by a bunch of ill-informed and ungrateful sheep.
 
The right to keep and bear arms is one of those issues a lot of "conservatives" are ambivalent about; They know that without it their party is toast, but they're not at all comfortable with the people they have to associate with to exploit it.
 
I too remember the movies in the army started with the National Anthem when i was in Germany. At the door were GI ticket takers. These were guys thhat were off duyty and working for pay. One Sunday I was at the theatre at Benjamin Franklin Village in Mannheim and the NCO that was collecting tickets stopped me. He told me I was not allowed to wear any military insignia on my suit jacket (7th Army Regs stipulated that we wear "appopriate clothing when on pass or off duty) I told the NCO that I was not wearing any such item. He said,"Yes you are, now remove it!" I looked at the object he was pointing at: My Rod and Gun Club, Europe pin! I had to remove it or leave the theatre. The NCO did not understand the club pin at all.

Last night I drug out an old movie I had not seen for some years. It was "Canadian Bacon"(1995), a satirical comedy that I remembered as very funny. What surprised me was that Michael Moore was the producer, director, writer and bit player (Redneck No. 2) for the film. I have always ignored his films because of his BS and propaganda. When I noticed his name on the box cover I watched the film a bit more critically than I would normally. There was some biting satire and some jabs at the government in general but nothing that set me off like the clips I have seen of "BFC", and "FH911".

One would surely hope that not only todays Jews but Christians also would be better prepared for any future late night knocks on the door. Just think if every household in Germany, Poland and the other countries that were overrun by the Nazi horde would have had at least one rifle and 20 or 50 rounds the world might have turned out a bit differently.
 
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