Looks Like We Might Be The New Home of The Amature Trapshooting Assoc.

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Decision nears on holding shooting event in Illinois

01/07/2004
Trapshooters will vote
on Sparta plan this month
By Shera Dalin
Of the Post-Dispatch



A decision could come by the end of the month on whether one of the nation's largest trapshooting competitions and headquarters will move to the World Shooting Complex in Sparta, Ill.

Officials with the Amateur Trapshooting Association outside Dayton, Ohio, are expected to present a proposal from Illinois this month to the membership for a vote. Las Vegas has also proposed to host the association's headquarters and Grand American competition, the largest shooting event in the world with more than 6,000 competitors over a 10-day contest.

"I feel real good about how the negotiations have been going," state Rep. Dan Reitz, D-Steeleville, said Tuesday. "We have asked them to make a decision this month. We would like to have something before the governor gives his budget address in February."

The Illinois Department of Natural Resources has been negotiating with the association to bring the Grand American and the group's headquarters to Sparta. The $30 million complex is being built on nearly 1,200 acres 50 miles southeast of St. Louis.

The complex will have about 120 trap stations over a 3.5-mile course, skeet stations, sporting clays, a pistol range and a 3-D archery range. It will offer hiking, 1,000 camper hookups, ATV trails and fishing.
The state will also build a large meeting hall and parking for major motor home and camping rallies, car shows and conventions. Several shooting groups have already committed to holding events at the complex, including the National Sporting Clays Association, the National Skeet Shooting Association and the Single Action Shooters Society.

Reitz said the Amateur Trapshooting Association has eliminated Shelbyville, Ind., from the competition for the Grand American, leaving only Sparta and Las Vegas.

"We're a couple of years ahead of Las Vegas because we've been working on it longer," Reitz said. "We'll have this facility ready by the time they need it in August 2006."

While Reitz said the state would be happy to become the new headquarters for the association, the Grand American is the real prize it is seeking. The competition is estimated to have $10 million in economic impact.

Cochran & Wilken Inc. of Springfield, Ill., is expected to have a master plan for the shooting complex completed later this month. Knight Infrastructure of Chicago, the construction manager, could begin building as early as fall, according to the natural resources agency.

Reporter Shera Dalin
E-mail: [email protected]
Phone: 618-235-0260
 
Interesting,Jeff, thanks for posting this. Considering the gun laws in Ill, there should be some interesting interchanges once 25,000 trapshooters, all armed, show up in a small Midwestern town. Not to mention all the non shooters.

Prior to NASCAR, the Grand National was the largest sports event in the US.
 
I grew up outside Chicago, and spent quite a bit of time downstate as well.

It's pretty different...

Most of the anti-gun stuff comes out of Cook County and a few surrounding areas. Most of the rest of the state is well-heeled in the traditions of hunting and sport shooting.

In fact, a couple Thanksgivings ago, I shot at a facility near Rend Lake in Southern Illinois, and it was great. It's just too bad that Chicago spoils it for the rest of the state.

I do find it humorous that Illinois finds itself the home of Armalite, Rock River Arms and John Holliger, all key national players in the production and tuning of evil black rifles. Heck, even Springfield Armory is in Illinois.

That being said, I do have some serious misgivings about ATA "rewarding" a state such as Illinois with their business and accompanying money.
 
Dave,
There will be no problems with 25000 armed trapshooters showing up to compete. Like TrapperReady said, it's a different world in this part of the state. I would guess that the people who don't own guns are a distinct minority around here. A deer permit is still an automatic excused absence in the high schools around here.

TrapperReady, it created quite a stir when our then governor, anti-gun and most likely soon to be federal convict George Ryan came down to dedicate the facility at Rend Lake. Considering how his policies are devastating Southern Illinois economically, I wouldn't be surprised to see our current let's see what we can ban today extremist gun banner governor Rod Blagojevich show up to dedicate the new site. Southern Illinois desperately needs the money this would bring in.

Jeff
 
Jeff - My wife's got some family around Salem and Marion. You aren't kidding about that area needing some help.
 
Wow !

Granted, I'm one whom shot "that/those other clay games". I have shot some trap and know quite a few that still do. We all support one another, and we still rib and tease.

I support and hope Sparta gets it. Centrally located, send a message to folks about the positives and truth of responsible gun owners, gonna be a bit difficult for Cook County to preach the evils of gun and crime when 25K folks with guns have no problems and Cook County without guns has all those gun related crimes.

This might be what it takes to remove some blinders for some folks - hopefully.

I think more folks regardless of shooting discipline, or sport need to support one another.

Sounds good to me, I wish you guys the best of luck, keep us posted.

This from a " 'round the clock" shooter :)
 
Jeff - Will do! We get down there about 2-3 times per year. Next time we visit, I'll shoot you a PM a couple weeks in advance.
 
The Grand is a worthwhile visit even if you don't shoot trap. Everything you've ever read or heard about related to clay targets is there and for sale. The drool value is considerable in the Krieghoff and Perazzi buildings.

The sound of over a mile long firing line has to be heard. It sounds a lot like a hot air popcorn popper from a distance.

The move to Sparta doubles the distance for me from a 6 hour to a 12 hour drive so that might reduce my attendance post '05.

So much to see and so much to buy. I learned on my first trip why they call it "The Grand" because it's very easy to spend a grand in a very short time.

Paul
 
Were it up to me I'd stick Chicago's and other Illinois locations vehement anit gun crap right in the governors face and make him eat crow or crap as he
sees fit. There must be consequences for this unconstituional behavior.
Why submit ATA, NSSA, NSCA, or SASS members to this situation. Tell them hasta la vista and go to Vegas which has a solid history of supporting gun owners over the years.
 
Illinois culture and attitudes are sharply divided between Chicago and the rest of the state. A couple years ago the Henry/ Rock Island counties area (this would include Springfield Armory, Rock River, Armalite, Les Baer..) discussed a possible competitive pistol/rifle complex in the context of economic development. Lord knows, we could use it. Haven't heard anything about it in awhile tho.
Illinois seems to be in a constant 3 way power struggle with Daley's urban Chicago, the wealthy suburban collar counties, and then the rest of the state always coming in 3rd.
 
We got it!

I'm not a trapshooter, but this is a great thing for us both economically and for our gun rights. I would guess this will come close to doubling the population in Randolph County when the competition is going on.

Sparta lands largest shooting contest
Shera Dalin
Post-Dispatch
01/09/2004


Organizers of the world's largest shooting competition voted Thursday night to move the show to Sparta, Ill.

The board of directors of the Amateur Trapshooting Association considered proposals from Sparta and Las Vegas to host its annual Grand American trapshooting competition. The meet brings in an estimated 12,000 visitors and $10 million in revenue over its 10-day run.

The board approved the agreement 49-6.

"It was a great vote," said state Rep. Dan Reitz, D-Steeleville. "It's good for the state and good for southwestern Illinois. This could put Sparta on the map."

The board also voted to bring two other shooting events to Sparta. The Grand American will be held in Sparta starting in August 2006.

The Illinois Department of Natural Resources has been negotiating with the association to bring the Grand American and the group's headquarters from near Dayton, Ohio, to the World Shooting Complex in Sparta. The $30 million complex will be built on nearly 1,200 acres 50 miles southeast of St. Louis.

The state was most interested in attracting the Grand American because of its economic impact, Reitz said. The ATA's headquarters, which must relocate from the Dayton Airport by 2006, carries far less impact, he said.

The complex will have about 120 trap stations over a 3.5-mile course, skeet stations, sporting clays, a pistol range and a 3-D archery range. It will offer hiking, 1,000 camper hookups, ATV trails and fishing.

The state will also build a large meeting hall and parking for major motor home and camping rallies, car shows and conventions.

Reporter Shera Dalin
E-mail: [email protected]
Phone: 618-235-0260
 
Congrats! That area sure needs any help it can get. Hopefully, this will provide generate some positive press for guns and gun owners in Illinois.
 
Huzzah, Jeff! It'll be interesting to hear what the pols say about this after all the anti gun bruhaha they've spewed. They'll lie, of course, and say thet're misquoted, taken out of contest, etc...
 
Hey, Jeff, TR, anybodyelse, maybe when the range is open we could have a THR "faceless names" group shoot.
'bout a 4 hour drive for me but I'd do it for a round of sporting clays. I'm not a trap shooter but I would like to attend the Grand sometime.
 
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