Louis Awerbuck's Stage I Shotgun - Review

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I attended this course on 27 through 29 June 2003. The class was held at Denny and Flint Hansen's range in Dewey, Arizona.

The facilities were excellent. The Hansen's have a nice range that would accomodate approx. 15 shooters. The berm is set up to permit safe fire in 3 directions out to 15 yards. The range can be extended a little past 100 yards. There is more then adequate parking, a moblie home that serves as classroom and restrooms. There is also an old house suitable for simunitions or airsoft training. The range proved easy to find from Prescott Valley and was a short drive (10 minutes) from a couple resturants.

The course started with about 3 hours of classroom instruction. Louis covered safety, shotguns, ammunition, slings and the administrative functions during this time. His knowledge of the subject matter is amazing. During this time he reveiwed what weapons everyone was using and told us exactly what difficulties we would have on the range. We also talked a little about tactics and the ongoing rifle/shotgun; which is the best defensive close quarters weapon? debate.

We then proceeded to the range where we fired some basic drills to warm up and see where the guns were shooting. Then we patterned our shotguns.

Day two started at 11:00 am with some warm up drills. We then zeroed our shotguns at 25 yards with slugs. We spent the rest of the afternoon firing drills alternating between slugs and birdshot. After a dinner break, we returned to the range for the night shoot. Louis demonstrated the use of the coaxial mounted light and the handheld light with the shotgun. He also gave a very good demonstration of the use of light as a weapon. Louis asked for a volunteer who had no history of seizures or epilepsy. I volunteered. He strobed his SureFire in my eyes for a few seconds. Then he told me to engage the steel plates about 10 yards downrange. It took a long time for me to reaquire enough vision to engage the plates, maybe 40 seconds to a minute. Then we repeated the process and I engaged the plates using my light. This was somewhat faster. But it proved to me that the bright light of a SureFire has definate tactical applications as a less lethal weapon in a CQB range encounter. While it didn't disable me, it slowed me down enough to make me a much bigger, slower target then I usually am.

On day three we started with some basic handgun shooting before moving into transition drills. We worked with transition drills until lunch. After lunch, we did some crawl stage two man movement drills. After doing the drills with both bare hands and then unloaded weapons, we moved to the old house where we ran a simulation using airsoft guns. Denny Hansen's daughter Ashley and Flint Hansen were roleplayers. The scenario was that you and a friend were watching the Super Bowl on the big screen TV when you heard your daughter screaming from a back room. The mission was to find her and get her out of the situation. This was very professionally done, with the Hansens filling their roles perfectly. I know from experience that it takes a lot of planning and work to make these types of simulations a good training event and keep them from degenerating into a free play "I shot you first! No you didn't! type game, which while fun ha little training value.

After the simulator we fired a two man movement exercise on steel. Then we received our certificates, policed up the range, and departed.

If anyone has read Louis's book or his articles in S.W.A.T. or other magazines and wondered if he's the real deal, let me assure you that he is. This was the first formal shotgun training outside of what Illinois requires in the mandatory firearms portion of the police academy that I ever had. I have always preferred a rifle or carbine because I have a long background with them, but I am confident I could fight with a shotgun nearly as efficiently as a carbine (within the shotgun's range limitations) after completing the course.

My thanks to Denny Hansen who sponsored the course and made the facilities available. Denny hinted that there were some upgrades to his facility in the works, it sounds like it's on the way to becoming a first class facility. And to Louis who had the patience with my ham fisted attempts to master the bolt release button on my Benelli M121 M1 and still teach me a lot in spite of the handicap it gave me. (If anyone knows where one of the modification kits HK made for them 20 years ago can be found, please let me know).

The bottom line is that if you want to master your weapon and learn to fight, you have to train. I am certain that I spent the weekend training under and with the best......

Jeff
 
Thanks for the review! I'm going to be taking Tactical Rifle I with him since I didn't get into the Pat Rogers class. I can't wait! :D
 
Moi? Gun dork? Who's the one that wears Royal Robbins 5.11s while they play Ghost Recon? Huh!? ;) :D
 
Moi? Gun dork? Who's the one that wears Royal Robbins 5.11s while they play Ghost Recon? Huh!?

Actually I was wearing my 5.12 pants because they're .01 more tactical.... :p
 
During this time he reveiwed what weapons everyone was using and told us exactly what difficulties we would have on the range.

Sure would like to hear more about this. Was he referring to different brands? Pump vs. semi, etc.? Can you give us some specific examples of what he said?
 
The difficulties he was speaking of were specific not only to brands, but the particular models we were carrying.

As a simple for instance, the pump guns are long enough it is hard to keep your support hand gripping the forearm when shooting prone. But if you don't stop it, when you fire the forearm comes back a couple inches by itself. You can still eject your fired round, but it does not load the next round.

He gave us the tip that you can gently squeeze the action bars to stop the forearm from moving backward when you fire.

It worked exactly as he said. When I fired (Mossberg 500) from prone, I didn't hold the forearm or the action bars, and I kept having the problem.

Other samples were more generally known things like how the semi's differed in treating the final round, or which guns allowed us to load from the side vs. the bottom. Since for safety we usually kept the bolts open, it was hard to remember to slide the forearm forward before bottom loading, or the shell gets stuck.

He had more advice for the semi's than the pumps, and since mine was a pump, I didn't pay quite as close of attention to that part.

Great class, but it sure was hot!
 
Forgot to mention, it was really great to meet some of the other THR members at this class.

I'm very new to shotguns (2nd time my Mossberg had ever been fired) but everyone was great. I teamed up with Jeff for a couple of the exercises.
 
Dav,
It was great to meet you and shoot with you. You shoot quite well for someone who said you had little previous experience. :D

I was confident with you in the simulator. With no experience you did just as good as some officers from other departments I've worked with. Did it make you want to ride in a squad car for a living? ;)


Jeff
 
After the l class was over and everyone had left, we had a debrief on how we could improve the simulator runs while keeping them practical. Daughter Ashleigh remarked, "Those guys rock!"

Ya'll did good.:D

Denny
 
Denny,
My apologies to Ashleigh for misspelling her name. Too darn many spellings these days.....

Ashleigh and Flint need to be commended for their roles. It takes a lot of discipline to go through those scenarios repeatedly. It's real easy to spot a screw up and forget you're a training aid and not the trainer and reward the student with a simuntions, paintball, airsoft round that isn't really part of the scenario just to teach them a lesson.

Thanks again for the facilities and opportunity to train.

Jeff
 
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