Man gets life in prison for spitting
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Mike Irwin
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I'd say that using deadly force in such a situation certainly IS warranted, Rock Jock, especially if the person says "I'm gonna give you AIDS" or something like that and then attempts to spit or bite.
TheeBadOne
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Gary, my god! 
CA is ahead of the curve in something!?
CA is ahead of the curve in something!? rick newland
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Could of said he got off easy, spit it a cop's face that is in a bad mood and it could of turned into a death sentence.
Before passing judgement....this guy may have a lengthy criminal background. Lots of publicity is given to the shoplifting 3 strikers here in California, but no mention is given to the fact that they also have commited something like 9-12 home invasions.
Ya--There is a bit more to it--
Also it was a jury decision--
SAPULPA, Okla. (July 3) - A convicted rapist has been sentenced to life in prison for spitting on a police officer.
Creek County Associate District Judge April Sellers White followed the recommendation of a jury for the maximum sentence against John C. Marquez under a law that makes it a felony to place bodily fluids on law enforcement officers.
White rejected a prosecution request for a 25-year prison term and a defense request for a four-year term.
Following sentencing Monday, Marquez's attorney, Jason Serner, promised an appeal to the state Court of Criminal Appeals. No appeal had been filed by Thursday.
Marquez, 35, was convicted of hurling body fluids on Sapulpa Officer Charles Gadd while Gadd was taking Marquez to jail following a domestic disturbance in which a woman's arm was broken.
The 1996 state law that makes it a felony to place bodily fluids on law enforcement officers was enacted amid concerns that deadly diseases, such as AIDS, could be transmitted this way.
Gadd told the jury that Marquez spit on him despite being warned and then bit him when Gadd was trying to prevent Marquez from spitting again.
Gadd and Marquez tested negative for any communicable diseases.
The jury took 15 minutes on May 14 to recommend the life sentence. Marquez's prior felony convictions, including rape and burglary, were taken into consideration in determining the sentence.
In addition to the life term, Marquez received one year in jail and a $3,000 fine for his conviction for domestic assault and a $500 fine for resisting a peace officer.
Telephone calls to the judge, the prosecuting attorney and the defense attorney were not returned Thursday.
07/03/03 12:38 EDT
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Also it was a jury decision--
SAPULPA, Okla. (July 3) - A convicted rapist has been sentenced to life in prison for spitting on a police officer.
Creek County Associate District Judge April Sellers White followed the recommendation of a jury for the maximum sentence against John C. Marquez under a law that makes it a felony to place bodily fluids on law enforcement officers.
White rejected a prosecution request for a 25-year prison term and a defense request for a four-year term.
Following sentencing Monday, Marquez's attorney, Jason Serner, promised an appeal to the state Court of Criminal Appeals. No appeal had been filed by Thursday.
Marquez, 35, was convicted of hurling body fluids on Sapulpa Officer Charles Gadd while Gadd was taking Marquez to jail following a domestic disturbance in which a woman's arm was broken.
The 1996 state law that makes it a felony to place bodily fluids on law enforcement officers was enacted amid concerns that deadly diseases, such as AIDS, could be transmitted this way.
Gadd told the jury that Marquez spit on him despite being warned and then bit him when Gadd was trying to prevent Marquez from spitting again.
Gadd and Marquez tested negative for any communicable diseases.
The jury took 15 minutes on May 14 to recommend the life sentence. Marquez's prior felony convictions, including rape and burglary, were taken into consideration in determining the sentence.
In addition to the life term, Marquez received one year in jail and a $3,000 fine for his conviction for domestic assault and a $500 fine for resisting a peace officer.
Telephone calls to the judge, the prosecuting attorney and the defense attorney were not returned Thursday.
07/03/03 12:38 EDT
Copyright 2003 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.
Giant
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"remember a couple of years back, the ACT UP group was planning on throwing what they said was HIV-tainted blood on politicians who were not willing to put the country into bankruptcy to fund AIDS research. I think they actually threw some blood, but it ended up being cows blood."
MAD COW DISEASE... My god what were they thinking? Oh the humanity of it.
On this question of cop spitting upon, crime and punishment, what ever happend to the legel concept of the punishment fitting the crime.
Cops know there is a bit of danger to the job, life in prison is an appropriate punishment for spitting on a cop? Lots of what if and yeah but here, but not life in prison.
The courts are already sending the message that everyone must bow down to and submit to the ruling class. This should not be allowed to continue very much longer. A thought or two and an opinion.
Giant
MAD COW DISEASE... My god what were they thinking? Oh the humanity of it.
On this question of cop spitting upon, crime and punishment, what ever happend to the legel concept of the punishment fitting the crime.
Cops know there is a bit of danger to the job, life in prison is an appropriate punishment for spitting on a cop? Lots of what if and yeah but here, but not life in prison.
The courts are already sending the message that everyone must bow down to and submit to the ruling class. This should not be allowed to continue very much longer. A thought or two and an opinion.
Giant
jimpeel
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Which begs the question; are we allowed to "place bodily fluids upon" non-governmental persons? Why are government employees afforded greater protection under the law than the rest of us and isn't this an equal protection issue?
TallPine
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This is nothing to sneeze at ...
rock jock
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Yeah, and when that danger is caused by another person, there should be punishment associated with it, same as with you and me.
dustind
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I think Jimpeel is on to something
jimpeel
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It is fortunate that Japan has no law like this; or George Herbert Walker Bush would still be cooling his heels in a Japanese prison for barfing in the lap 
of the Japanese President.
of the Japanese President.
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Life for spitting on an officer, that's a bit much, unless some deadly infection was transmitted.
Personally, I've got a neat idea. Instead of jailing him for spitting on a LEO... how about we fry him for being a wife beating rapist? Maybe if we killed more criminals convicted beyond a reasonable doubt, we could greatly cut down on that 'repeat offender' thing.
Personally, I've got a neat idea. Instead of jailing him for spitting on a LEO... how about we fry him for being a wife beating rapist? Maybe if we killed more criminals convicted beyond a reasonable doubt, we could greatly cut down on that 'repeat offender' thing.
Duncan Idaho
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According to everything that I have read here, he did not get "Life for spitting on an officer..."
He got life because he was finally put in front of a jury that had some brains. They saw a lifelong felon before them, and used the law (however questionable it may be) to put this mad dog away. It took them only 15 minutes to do so. Good for them.
Back when this country was inhabited by civilized people - instead of worthless hand-wringing sheeple - a rat like this guy would have been strung up from the nearest tree on the occasion of having been found guilty of a heinous crime, THE FIRST TIME AROUND!!!
Here is hoping for him to find happiness in his new cellmate Bubba, or vice versa.
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Oh, COME ON! You have GOT to be kidding!
HBK
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Spitting on someone is pretty nasty and at the very least deserves a good butt whipping. Ditto the fact that we should be concentrating on the fact that he's a wife beating rapist. He should be executed.
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Just to clarify, I don't think HIV can be transmitted via saliva unless there is blood in your mouth.
dustind
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Thas what I have always heard BenErza.
Bob R
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IIRC there has been one case of HIV transmission through kissing (the sharing of saliva). One was HIV+ and while enjoying the company of the other did pass the virus through blood in he saliva. Both had pretty poor dentation, including bleeding gums.
http://www.managingdesire.org/mmwrkiss.html
I am also on the same page as others who wonder why only a certain segment of society is afforded the protection of laws relating to the placement of bodily fluids on their person. I guess whenever I have a spitter in the ER I need a LEO to stand between me and the spitter until I can get a mask on him/her.
bob
http://www.managingdesire.org/mmwrkiss.html
I am also on the same page as others who wonder why only a certain segment of society is afforded the protection of laws relating to the placement of bodily fluids on their person. I guess whenever I have a spitter in the ER I need a LEO to stand between me and the spitter until I can get a mask on him/her.
bob
See what happens....
when liberal elitists (sometimes masquerading as conservatives, nonetheless) take over the country?
25 years ago, if you spit in a cop's face you'd be spitting some teeth out shortly thereafter. Then we got all politically correct and decided that the individual officer shouldn't be doing such a barbaric thing- so we gave him $500 worth of chemical agents, stun guns, and little batons that look like an old car antenna on steroids. Of course we still manage to get sued using all this new-age crap, but that don't matter because....
Big Brother to the rescue!!! Now the Gubmit is protecting us poor, disabused po-leese-men from spitters by sending these monsters to jail for LIFE. You the taxpayer now get to feed and medicate this jerk for life, and pay for his endless appeals. In the old days all he needed was a couple of stitches and maybe a trip to the dentist, and the taxpayers only had to pay for that occasionally. See how much we have inmproved?
Spitting on a cop is stupid, particularly stupid if you happen to spit on an old salt who may not have adapted to the new procedure quite so well. But making it a life-sentence felony is insane. Tamara (I think) said it better than anyone else with that bit about "spitting on the King's men".
No cop, no politician, no president beathes life that is more valuable than a housewife, truck driver or hobo. The very notion that we should enhance punishment for crimes against special classes of individuals, flies in the face of "equal protection under the law".
Nobody twisted my arm to get into law enforcement, and I knew there were certain risks when I pinned a badge on. I can always quit and do something else if I want to. Hell, I could probably make as much money driving a milk truck anyway.
when liberal elitists (sometimes masquerading as conservatives, nonetheless) take over the country?
25 years ago, if you spit in a cop's face you'd be spitting some teeth out shortly thereafter. Then we got all politically correct and decided that the individual officer shouldn't be doing such a barbaric thing- so we gave him $500 worth of chemical agents, stun guns, and little batons that look like an old car antenna on steroids. Of course we still manage to get sued using all this new-age crap, but that don't matter because....
Big Brother to the rescue!!! Now the Gubmit is protecting us poor, disabused po-leese-men from spitters by sending these monsters to jail for LIFE. You the taxpayer now get to feed and medicate this jerk for life, and pay for his endless appeals. In the old days all he needed was a couple of stitches and maybe a trip to the dentist, and the taxpayers only had to pay for that occasionally. See how much we have inmproved?
Spitting on a cop is stupid, particularly stupid if you happen to spit on an old salt who may not have adapted to the new procedure quite so well. But making it a life-sentence felony is insane. Tamara (I think) said it better than anyone else with that bit about "spitting on the King's men".
No cop, no politician, no president beathes life that is more valuable than a housewife, truck driver or hobo. The very notion that we should enhance punishment for crimes against special classes of individuals, flies in the face of "equal protection under the law".
Nobody twisted my arm to get into law enforcement, and I knew there were certain risks when I pinned a badge on. I can always quit and do something else if I want to. Hell, I could probably make as much money driving a milk truck anyway.
Seminole
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EEEEEUUUUUWWWW!!! Yuck, yuck, yuck!!!!!!!! Gross!
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