Crosshair
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Eh, Zamak is stronger than a number of aluminum alloys. It depends on if it was well made or not. Plenty of steel guns out there that are made poorly.
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crestoncowboy
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The Ithaca was made by erma in west Germany while imperato ran Ithaca. Then he started Henry and made the same gun in the USA.
They are pretty much the same. My Ithaca says ERMA on it.
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The Chaippa Model 39-like rifle looks very much like a Marlin Model 39 externally but internally it's quite different.
I'd put it as being "reminiscent" of the Marlin.
If you go to the Chaippa web site you can see an owners manual with a schematic showing the internal mechanism.
I'd put it as being "reminiscent" of the Marlin.
If you go to the Chaippa web site you can see an owners manual with a schematic showing the internal mechanism.
Scooter22
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About getting a "cheap" gun. Sometimes it's nice to find a inexpensive version that works well so you don,t have to beat on your good ones. I've got a Golden 39A thats liike new. Fun to shoot but I wouldn't pack it around in the rain and snow we get because of the condition. One of the Chiappas would be shorter and fun because I wouldn't worry about damaging a classic you won't get again.
MacAR
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It's a somewhat simpler design. No screw holds the ejector, it's set into the side of the frame best I remember. I think numerich has a parts breakdown if you'd like to investigate further.
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But I am not interested in poorly made guns. A forged billet aluminum receiver, then hard anodized, I could live with in some guns but I am not okay with low pressure cast Zamak in any gun and then especially when it is plated with thin faux brass or painted black. We all have our preferences and that is mine, I can appreciate that yours differ.
To be clear, I would never find an aluminum alloy construction acceptable for a rifle like the Marlin 39 or for that matter, the Winchester 9422 at those price points, both of which are forged steel.
I have never seen a Chiappa except in magazines and the www.
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MachIVshooter
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If you want a 39A, just pony up and grab a decent one off Armslist or GB. It's not like they're rare, and it's not like a Ruger-made new one is gonna be below the current $600-$800 range of good, used JMs and Remlins.
Does a Winchester XTR 9422 or 9422M beat a 39A? And in this order of lever 22 rifles, where does the Rossi fit?
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I certainly will . Thanks for chiming in.
But the chiappa is 300. The last new winchester i bought was a gift and if im not mistaken was close 600 10 years ago. My last 39 was an unremarkable plain model 39AS used it nice . And it was still 600.
I wish I'd waited the extra hour and had the "outfitter" hand me the rifle. But the process was so slow to buy my shotgun I was slightly irritated....and hungry....and thirsty... lol
Is the chiappa zamak on both halves of the rifle. Breaking down a 39 can take a bit more ooph than id like to put on zamak . The manual for a 39 actually says to hit with a mallet or bump the side of barrel on the ground. The junk metal on the Henry is one thing. Never be stressed anyway. But if the mating halves of the 39 clone are zamak id worry a bit. Lol
I have several. Again I collect pump and lever rimfires. The chiappa I just noticed on a cabelas shelf. Found it interesting that instead of the rossi/ Henry ish design they copied the Marlin .
Personally I prefer the winchester . The Marlin is fat and heavy (assuming the standard model) and the internal machining was often crude. Purely aesthetics though. Both function well in my experience.
Pic i had on my phone
L TO R.
MARLIN 39
Henry/Erma/or Ithaca of mine . No idea which
Win. 9422
BL22 grade 2. (1969)
Bl 22 grade 1. Newer manufacture.
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.45Coltguy
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Nice line-up of .22 lever guns there. Real nice.
I only have one; 1957 39A. Damn fun shooter.
I only have one; 1957 39A. Damn fun shooter.
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The 39 are a superb gun. And mechanically right up there with the others. They are just big and heavy for a 22 lever and growing up watching westerns I preferred the saddlegun style. I started as a kid with dads Ithaca (same as Henry). Just a minimalistic design. Smooth and just work. Then I got a couple pumps after using some at the shooting galleries on the old boardwalks. The pumps can be finicky but I love them. Once I turned 18 and got a real job I just started buying all the old lever guns I found and could afford. Mostly rimfire. I have s 25/35 and a couple 30/30 just to look at. And a 450 I thought I needed but then didn't use. Then I got a couple savage 99. I catch flack for it, but I just never could love the savage. They were great investments though. Were 300 dollars 20 year ago. Can't find them for that now. But I mostly bought rimfire. I wouldn't even guess as to how many.
I love the feed tube design on the Browning, but greatly prefer the traditional stationary trigger and lever of the Winchester and the steel of the Marlin Give me that for the price of the Henry and I'd be happy. Lol. I'm not asking for much.
One of them can't shoot shorts. They double fed. I don't remember which and I haven't shot a short in years. But I know one of the four by design won't stop the second round and the elevator catches it. The Marlin also doesn't have a dovetail but I don't scope any of mine anyway
MacAR
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As far as I know, yes. Pretty much only "Marlin-like" in appearance and not in operation. I found a parts break-down in the online manual for you to peruse: /https://www.chiappafirearms.com/uploadimmagini/altrimanuali_documento_28.pdf
You'll have to scroll nearly to the end to get to it, and it's a bit hard for me to see even on my desktop.
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I checked it out. Definitely some differences. I noticed it's half cock safety too. The extension for the takedown screw will bite them im afraid. I may just have to pick one up to see. As much as I hate clone/ look alike guns. The chiappa doesn't mention whacking the gun for take down. Lol
Last 39 I had was pre ‘50 and had at various times in its life at least three different side mounts. It also had cut rifling. I filled the screw holes with dummy screws but dumb me got talked out of it. My last nice one I gave to #2 son who will let me shoot it if I ask nice.
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I had a Marlin model 39 made in 1960 and let it get away. I wish I had it back but there's no way I'd give up my Henry Golden Boy for it.
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