Marlin M60 and/or Papoose

[sgphoto]

I'm considering a trunk gun in .22 and saw a used Papoose Marlin .22. I had been looking at a used M60.

Anyone have experience with the Papoose? Probably can get a used one of either model for 70 bucks or so.

Is the Papooses different in the action from the M60?

Any help would be appreciated with comparing these models.

Thanks.
Steve

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Papoose is based on the Marlin M70, which is the magazine-fed
verson of the Marlin M60 (which was updated from the Marlin M99).
There is a lot in common between the papoose and M70, especially
in the internal action parts, and much commonality with the M60.

Since the Papoose barrel detaches, it makes a smaller package
than the M60 or M70. That is a plus in considering a trunk gun
for a hunting vehicle or ATV.

The Papoose has a detachable barrel, similar in concept to the
AR7 survival rifle. The stock of the papoose stays attached
to the action and I suspect it is much more stable and accurate
than the AR7 for that reason.

(I own M60 and AR7 rifles but have not owned a Papoose or M70
but would snatch one up at 70.00 if given the opportunity.)

 

[sgphoto]

Mr. Brown, you mentioned one the intriging things I noticed about the Papoose. It reminded me of the Armalite survival .22 of over thirty years ago, but maybe without the problems.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/SelfLoading/70PSS.aspx

I just found this model on the Marlin site. I haven't priced it yet, but I bet it's more than 70.00 bucks. However, it's a good looking yet practical weapon for many puroses with a weight of only 3.5 pounds.

It's only a seven round clip. While not really a deal killer, I wonder if there are aftermarket magazines available in greater load capacity. A 20 rounder (even 14-15) would be a great benefit.

Maybe I need both the used blue-steel, wood stock Papoose one AND a new one, for the sake of science, you understand. . . .

Sounds like dandy little rifles to consider.

Thanks.
Steve

 

[treeprof]

You'll need real good luck to find a decent used Papoose for $70! They go for just north of $200 new, and the upper $100's on the nice ones I see used on rare occasion. Mine is a great little gun, reliable with everything I've fed it. Factory 10 rd mags are readily available. They made 15 rounders years ago, but they are extra scarce and will not fit the new models anyway.

 

[MCgunner]

I have a Charter Arms AR7 and it's a reliable gun. Later models from Survival arms have a bad rep. I think mostly folks don't understand the need to play with the magazines for feed reliability. The feed ramp is in the magazine and must be properly adjusted. Mine feeds and ejects 100 percent.

But, the Papoose has a better trigger. The AR7's is creepy and stiff. It's harder to shoot accurately. the AR7 shoots about 1" groups at 25 yards, the Papoose I fired would half that, great little gun for small game. In addition, it was a little heavier and easier to get stable than the AR7. I bought my AR7 as a "saddle bag gun" for my bike trips and it works fine, but I think the Papoose is a better gun for most folks. Like the M60, it shoots really well for an affordable .22. I'd jump all over the Papoose if I were you. It's a handy little package and in the little floating case it comes with, doesn't look like a firearm. I came across one of those Papoose floating cases at Walmart on the sale table once, picked it up for about eight bucks and that's what I keep my AR7 in. These little take downs are just too handy and affordable not to own one.

I got crazy and pimped out my AR7 back before the Clinton magazine ban, 25 round stick mag, scope, telescoping stock, vented barrel shroud. LOL, real tacticool! I use the stock magazines with it, though, for most of when I use it. The gun makes a lot more sense left alone in the floating stock, but I just couldn't resist dressing it up since I don't need it to float, not into kayak/canoe hunting.

Here's my AR7. Mine works great and was about 100 bucks. The Papoose is definetly worth 100 bucks more IMHO, though. But, I kinda like it.

 

[MatthewVanitas]

A used blue Marlin 60 is $60 or so, but might not hold up so well in a trunk.

A brand spankin' new stainless Papoose goes for $210 on GunBroker, and that way you get
a) stainless
b) detach mag (for jurisdictions where you can keep a loaded mag out of the gun and handy)
c) synth stock
d) breakdown

I wouldn't buy a Papoose for a plinker, but as a car gun it may be worth the extra swag...

-MV

 

[rangerruck]

the papoose is a fine gun, in demand, and costs much more. they are as accurate as the mod 60, but are mag fed. they really break donw into a nice small size. Quite light as well. If you can get one used for under 100 bucks, you would be doing very well for yourself.

 

[XavierBreath]

I bought my Marlin 70P "Papoose" in a pawn shop for $79. I later found an original case for it along with a spare magazine on ebay for around $10. The 70P is a fine shooter, but it is, in my opinion, best used with iron sights. It does have a scope mount similar to the Marlin 60, but I always figured the scope would get knocked about a lot on this gun.

A scoped Marlin 60 is obviously going to be more accurate, but the 70P will hold it's own with a non-scoped Marlin 60.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

The current production Papoose is shown only in
stainless steel with synthetic stock.