Marshall & Sanow: What to do with a book I wish I had not bought?

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Chuck Dye

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I have a hardbound copy of HANDGUN STOPPING POWER The Definitive Study by Evan P. Marshall and Edwin J. Sanow, the presence of which on my bookshelf is now an irritant. An ethology major in college, I recognized immediately that the statistical analysis was unacceptable when the book was printed in 1992. Given the advance of technology in the past 15 years, there could be little utility in the statistics now even if they were valid. All that really remains of the text are the anecdotes and some photographs: entertaining but little more.

What should I do with this book? Sell or trade it on the local used market in the hope that some interested collector will buy it as the horrible example, rather than some newbie who may come to grief using dubious information that is a decade and a half old? Keep it in my own library specifically for its irritant value? Consign it to the next burn barrel run?
 
here are a few ideas you may find fun or corny, or both.

Hollow it out to hide a pocket gun chambered in a caliber that book labels as the worst thing around, and load it with the worst ammo listed in the book for that caliber.

Shoot it up with the cheapest pocket auto and ammo you can, say a nice little 25 acp with fmj and let us see the results.

Or just keep it tucked away in the bathroom as emergency paper when the roll goes empty....at least it should be more absorbent then kleenex....
 
A couple of suggestions:

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Shoot it, toss it in the trash, or the hollowed-out idea might be an option. Just don't give it away for someone else to be misinformed. Friends don't let friends read M&S.
 
I love the idea of hollowing it out. That's fantastic. Exactly what I'd do with it.
 
Well, it would make for a heck of a lot of kindling. I feel the same way as you do about that particular book.
 
Consider:

Review of criticisms of ballistic pressure wave experiments, the Strasbourg goat tests, and the Marshall and Sanow data
Authors: Michael Courtney, Amy Courtney
Subj-class: Medical Physics

This article reviews published criticisms of several ballistic pressure wave experiments authored by Suneson et al., the Marshall and Sanow "one shot stop" data set, and the Strasbourg goat tests. These published criticisms contain numerous logical and rhetorical fallacies, are generally exaggerated, and fail to convincingly support the overly broad conclusions they contain.

link: http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0701268

Ballistic pressure wave contributions to rapid incapacitation in the Strasbourg goat tests
Authors: Michael Courtney, Amy Courtney
Subj-class: Medical Physics

This article presents empirical models for the relationship between peak ballistic pressure wave magnitude and incapacitation times in the Strasbourg goat test data. Using a model with the expected limiting behavior at large and small pressure wave magnitudes, the average incapacitation times are highly correlated (R = 0.91) with peak pressure wave magnitude. The cumulative incapacitation probability as a function of time reveals both fast (less than 5 s) and slow (greater than 5 s) incapacitation mechanisms. The fast incapacitation mechanism can be accurately modeled as a function of peak pressure wave magnitude. The slow incapacitation mechanism is presumably due to blood loss via damaged vascular tissue.

link: http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0701267

Relative incapacitation contributions of pressure wave and wound channel in the Marshall and Sanow data set
Authors: Michael Courtney, Amy Courtney
Subj-class: Medical Physics

The Marshall and Sanow data set is the largest and most comprehensive data set available quantifying handgun bullet effectiveness in humans. This article presents an empirical model for relative incapacitation probability in humans hit in the thoracic cavity by handgun bullets. The model is constructed by employing the hypothesis that the wound channel and ballistic pressure wave effects each have an associated independent probability of incapacitation. Combining models for these two independent probabilities using the elementary rules of probability and performing a least-squares fit to the Marshall and Sanow data provides an empirical model with only two adjustable parameters for modeling bullet effectiveness with a standard error of 5.6% and a correlation coefficient R = 0.939. This supports the hypothesis that wound channel and pressure wave effects are independent (within the experimental error), and it also allows assignment of the relative contribution of each effect for a given handgun load. This model also gives the expected limiting behavior in the cases of very small and very large variables (wound channel and pressure wave), as well as for incapacitation by rifle and shotgun projectiles.

link: http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0701266

A method for testing handgun bullets in deer
Authors: Michael Courtney, Amy Courtney
Subj-class: Medical Physics; General Physics

Using service handguns to test bullets in deer is problematic because of velocity loss with range and accuracy giving sub-optimal shot placement. An alternate method is presented using a scoped muzzleloader shooting saboted handgun bullets to allow precise (within 2" in many cases) shot placement for studying terminal ballistics in a living target. Deer are baited to a known range and path obstructions are used to place the deer broadside to the shooter. Muzzleloading powder charges provide a combination of muzzle velocity and velocity loss due to air resistance for a given ballistic coefficient that produce impact velocities corresponding to typical pistol velocities. With readily available sabots, this approach allows for testing of terminal ballistics of .355, .357, .40, .429, .45, and .458 caliber bullets with two muzzleloaders (.45 and .50 caliber). Examples are described demonstrating the usefulness of testing handgun bullets in deer for acoustic shooting event reconstruction, understanding tissue damage effects, and comparing relative incapacitation of different loads.

link: http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0702107

To date, the peer review of these papers has caught a couple of editing errors, but otherwise been mostly positive. Other than the usual barbs about using the Strasbourg or Marshall and Sanow data sets, there has been little critical objection to our work. And intrestingly enough, no one has yet pointed out any flaws at all in our "Review of exaggerated criticisms . . ." paper beyond the overall opinion that perhaps we were too easy on M&S and berating us for not paying homage to Martin Fackler.

We tried hard to write these papers, and especially the "Review of exaggerated criticisms . . ." paper in a way to be accessible to a more general audience. Even the more technical material in the other papers seldom goes beyond content that you get in many freshman and sophomore college science and math courses.


Michael Courtney
 
Hollow it out. Then, despite the obsolecense of the data, the title "handgun stopping power" will still hold true, with true gems hidden within the cover :D
 
Encapsulate it in a chunk of jello or tie it to a rump roast and perform your own documented/pictoral ballistic experiments and post the end results back here.
Best-MC
 
Huck Phinn: If you're interested in selling it for a reasonable price I'd be happy to take it off your hand so long as it's the original printing and in decent shape. I collect all sorts of firearms and shooting related texts. Old, new, good, bad, they've all got a place on my bookshelf.

-Jenrick
 
Carry it with you always.

Today, I went out to the mailbox -- a 3/4 mile walk through the woods. On the way back, I was overcome by a problem. Fortunately, among the items in the mail was a copy of our local weekly paper.:p
 
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