"Mayors aim to keep guns in safe hands" (Bloomberg)

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Since we are taking The High Road here, I figure Bloomberg's own words should be presented for review:

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/15712769.htm


Posted on Mon, Oct. 09, 2006

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Mayors aim to keep guns in safe hands

By Michael R. Bloomberg

The horrific murders in Lancaster County last week remind us of the tragic consequences that guns can cause when they fall into the wrong hands. Although the gun used in these killings was purchased legally, the fact is that most guns used in murders are purchased illegally. We can do something to stop those tragic crimes - and shame on us if we don't.

Recently, at the invitation of Mayor Street, I joined a bipartisan delegation of Pennsylvania mayors, as well as Trenton Mayor Doug Palmer, on a visit to Harrisburg to push for tougher laws against illegal guns. Why does the mayor of New York City care about Pennsylvania's gun laws? Because about 90 percent of guns used in crimes in our city come from out of state, including many from Pennsylvania.

Taking illegal guns off New York City's streets requires us not only to strengthen law enforcement efforts within our city, which we have done - gun arrests are up 14 percent this year - but also to prevent illegal guns from flowing into our city in the first place.

Mayors across the country are facing the same dual challenge. That's why this year, with help from Mayors Street and Palmer, we created a national coalition of Mayors Against Illegal Guns. More than 100 mayors - from both political parties - have joined us, including Pennsylvania mayors from Allentown to Williamsport.

We're working together to share data, learn from innovative law enforcement initiatives, and begin raising our voices in Congress and state capitals, where we know we face uphill battles. Although there is no shortage of elected representatives who purport to be tough on crime, many of them have a serious blind spot: They refuse to crack down on the illegal sale and possession of guns - and tragically, thousands of people die every year as a result.

When they say they are defending the Second Amendment, that's just deceptive political spin. Does a felon have the right to buy a gun? Absolutely not. Does a gun dealer have a right to sell to a felon? Of course not. Both actions are prohibited by federal law.

In Congress, those who place ideology over law enforcement are forever trying to strip the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives of its authority. Last month, the House passed a bill that would make it even harder than it already is for the ATF to revoke the license of a gun dealer found in serious violation of federal law.

Some members of Congress are also trying to make it more difficult for cities to trace guns used in crimes back to their source, which flies in the face of responsible governance. Think about the recent spinach problem, which has been linked to two deaths and about 200 sicknesses. What was the government's response? It tracked the contaminated spinach back to the source of the problem and pulled the stock off the shelves. Meanwhile, more than 11,000 Americans are murdered with guns every year, and yet Congress wants to prevent us from tracking back to a main source of the problem - irresponsible gun dealers who fail to follow federal laws.

Unlike members of Congress and state legislatures, mayors can't afford to let political ideology get in the way of law enforcement. Mayors are the ones who are charged with protecting the safety of the people - including the police. And when tragedy strikes and an officer is murdered, usually with an illegal gun, mayors are the ones who are called to the hospital in the middle of the night to try to offer some words of comfort to the family. Those experiences sear into your soul the importance of doing everything possible to prevent criminals from obtaining illegal guns.

This year, we pushed a bill through the New York State Legislature that increases penalties for illegal possession of a loaded gun. Whereas once many of these offenders were released with probation, they will soon get a mandatory minimum prison sentence of 31/2 years - no exceptions.

Working with the New York City Council, we also passed a bill that requires gun dealers to inspect their inventory on a biannual basis and report lost or stolen guns to the police department twice a year, which will help our officers recover these guns from those who might otherwise use them in deadly criminal activity. It's exactly these types of efforts that have helped New York, the safest big city in the nation, to continue driving down crime to record lows - even as crime in the rest of the nation is on the rise.

The mayors I talked with in Harrisburg want similar protections for their cities, as do mayors around the country. Our ranks include strong defenders of the Second Amendment, because we have one and only one aim: keeping guns out of the hands of criminals. By working together, mayors can begin taking politics out of law enforcement and continue making our cities safer places to live and work.


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Michael R. Bloomberg is the mayor of New York City. Contact him by visiting www.nyc.gov/emailmike.

He did get one thing right: legally owned firearms are typically NOT used in crimes.

But I see at least two errors here: Nothing in the ATF modernization act would prevent law enforcement from getting trace data on recovered firearms, and the same bill increases the number of possible penalties that ATF could impose on a dealer.
 
push for tougher laws against illegal guns

:banghead:

If they are ILLEGAL guns, that means they were ALREADY possessed in violation of the law, so another law will help with the law that already was being ignored?

@#$%! doublespeak circular logic...

those who place ideology over law enforcement

I know of some who did that. Their names were...Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Adams...
 
Mr. Bloomburg sir.... why is it if you are trying to keep guns in safe hands, you won't let me carry one in your city? My hands are safe, I have no criminal record, I regularly pass NCIS background checks.

I would seem to me sir, that you are a liar.
 
it's definitely doublespeak, but notice the slight change in his rhetoric from previous statements. in previous press releases he has just gone on about 'getting guns off the street'....any gun will do apparently. now don't get me wrong....these half-baked mayors still have the same goal...clearly. apparently they have discovered that their blanket rhetoric which always came off as being in disregard of legal gun ownership just wasn't working. slippery if you're not paying close attention. i'm sure they calculate that the majority of the country won't notice the slight shift...and they're probably right.
 
So what is their record for prosecuting gun violations in that area? I guess we could look at gun violations/arrests versus indictments/prosecutions.

Are they working 100% to enforce the laws that are currently on the books and that is not eough? I seriously doubt it.
 
so putting law enforcement over right to free speach, and right to trial is unconstitutional

but putting law enforcement over right to bear arms is totatly logical.

man i wish there was a good media source that can bring this type of thing to attention
 
Mr. Bloomburg sir.... why is it if you are trying to keep guns in safe hands, you won't let me carry one in your city? My hands are safe, I have no criminal record, I regularly pass NCIS background checks.
Because in his mind no one is safe hands except police and military. As human as they have proven themselves to be.
 
People like these (gun fearing idealists) have been running around in circles pulling their puds trying to ban inanimate objects in leu of one huge, unspoken, monumental fact....

The only thing that will help get them what they want, is banning peope who are crazy, and those most at risk of being in gangs, and that's just not going to happen. Infact, the aforementioned people keep these clowns in office.

:neener: :confused:
 
Mayors

Know what is best for us all. They are our sworn protectors. If bad guys chase us, or break down our doors at 2:am, then city hired Super-Heroes will fly to the rescue... No Thanks! I think I would rather be responsible for my first line of defense.
 
I can just see Bloomberg shuddering and quivering as he wrote that little bit about supporting the 2nd Amendment.

Spare me Bloomberg. :barf:
 
From the article;
Does a felon have the right to buy a gun? Absolutely not. Does a gun dealer have a right to sell to a felon? Of course not. Both actions are prohibited by federal law.
Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I do not see in the 2nd where felons cannot own a firearm.

Duhhh...They are prohibited by federal law.
 
Although the gun used in these killings was purchased legally, the fact is that most guns used in murders are purchased illegally.

So he wants to pass more laws that will only affect law abiding people.

Logic and reason have no part in his mental processes.

push for tougher laws against illegal guns.

He needs to push for better enforcement of existing laws, and convictions with long prison terms for the CRIMINALS - it doesn't help to put the gun in prison, but it surely will help to put the criminal in prison.

Although there is no shortage of elected representatives who purport to be tough on crime, many of them have a serious blind spot: They refuse to crack down on the illegal sale and possession of guns

This is a blatant lie. The legislatures have passed laws already, or the sale and possession would not be illegal - the failure in enforcement of these existing laws is the judicial branch, that lets criminals back onto the street.

When they say they are defending the Second Amendment, that's just deceptive political spin. Does a felon have the right to buy a gun? Absolutely not. Does a gun dealer have a right to sell to a felon? Of course not. Both actions are prohibited by federal law.

He knows that the law already exists that makes possession by certain people a felony, and that is why he calls certain guns "illegal" guns - the guns are not illegal, the actions of the criminals are illegal. Bloomberg wants to make gun possession by anyone illegal.

Last month, the House passed a bill that would make it even harder than it already is for the ATF to revoke the license of a gun dealer found in serious violation of federal law.

Bloomberg does not understand that the REGULATIONS the BATFE creates under the authority of federal law, are arbitrary and capricious - that BATFE considers MINOR paperwork errors to be worthy of the same punishment as willful sales of firearms to convicted felons.

Some members of Congress are also trying to make it more difficult for cities to trace guns used in crimes back to their source, which flies in the face of responsible governance. ..... Meanwhile, more than 11,000 Americans are murdered with guns every year, and yet Congress wants to prevent us from tracking back to a main source of the problem - irresponsible gun dealers who fail to follow federal laws.

Bloomberg is blatantly lying again. Congress is not attempting to prevent access to trace data of individual guns, for law enforcement purposes - it is trying to prevent mass exposure of sensitive personal info of law abiding gun purchasers, that will be used to file lawsuits that will destroy the firearms industry in the USA. That is not an issue of law enforcement, it is an issue of National Policy, that the Mayors are trying to USURP from the federal government, by means of assault lawsuits.

Unlike members of Congress and state legislatures, mayors can't afford to let political ideology get in the way of law enforcement.

Bloomberg and his recent illegal attempt to sting out of state gun dealers for straw purchases, in support of his lawsuits against gun dealers in other states, recently destroyed ongoing law enforcement investigations. This is where his political ideology got in the way of law enforcement. His hypocrisy is enormous.

report lost or stolen guns to the police department twice a year, which will help our officers recover these guns from those who might otherwise use them in deadly criminal activity.

This is just plain BS. Reporting a gun missing does not help recover it from criminals - police on the street making criminal stops will find the gun, then the trace will determine where the gun was shipped; that can be accomplished without the store reporting the gun as missing.

This entire article is full of blatant lies and deceptions on the part of Bloomberg. He will get away with this because he realizes that the majority of the people that read it are too stupid or too lazy to actually spend any time thinking about the issue. Most people will gloss over it, and say - Bloomberg is trying to reduce crime, so good for him.

Bloomberg and the other Mayors want one thing, and only one thing. They want more control over the subjects they rule. They will lie, cheat, steal and commit many unethical (maybe illegal) actions in order to accomplish that goal.
 
I like this - he's trying to sound pro-2nd Amendment...
If the mayor of NYC has to court the IIA folks, I think the overall gun situation across this country could be improving.
Still pretty stupid....
"We need to pass more laws against illegal murder". Just about as pointless as what Bloomberg's saying. Illegal guns are... already in violation of the law. Go after the people committing crimes. You don't have a right to make pre-emptive (sp) strikes.

Pass laws? Laws mean very little to people who are actively breaking them.
Does Bloomberg think that making an illegal activity illegal... more illegal, I guess you could say - will end it? Might raise the profit margin for black marketeers in their gun sales - probably won't mean a thing.
I'm sure the NYC criminal element is currently quaking in their tennis shoes at the thought of Bloomberg's wrath.
 
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