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Fewer mentally ill people allowed to buy guns
Last updated November 29, 2007 7:34 p.m. PT

By BROCK VERGAKIS AND LARA JAKES JORDAN
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

PARK CITY, Utah -- A federal list of mentally ill people barred from buying guns has doubled in size since the Virginia Tech shootings, and U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey encouraged more states Thursday to add information to the database.

In his first policy speech since taking over as attorney general early this month, Mukasey said states have now reported 393,957 mentally ill people to the federal database used to screen the backgrounds of potential gun-buyers. As of July, three months after the Virginia Tech shootings, states had submitted only 174,863 names to the database.

"Instant background checks are essential to keeping guns out of the wrong hands, while still protecting the privacy of our citizens," Mukasey said.

"But as we learned in the tragedy at Virginia Tech, the checks must be accurate and complete to be effective," Mukasey told the National Association of Attorneys General.

People are included in the federal database only after courts or other authorities have found them to have mental health problems, Justice Department officials said. Federal agencies, including the Defense and Veterans Affairs departments, also submit names, but the Justice Department could not immediately say how many.

Currently, 32 states, including Washington, submit names to the mental health database; the federal government cannot force the other 18 to follow suit.

On April 16, Virginia Tech student Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people and himself in the deadliest campus shooting in U.S. history. He bought two guns -- a Glock 9 mm at a Virginia store and a .22-caliber pistol over the Internet -- despite a special justice's 2005 order to get outpatient treatment for being a danger to himself. There has been no indication that Cho ever received the treatment.

Had his court order been submitted to the federal database, Cho likely would have been unable to buy the guns.

Private mental health records, including diagnosis documents from hospitals or insurance companies, are not accessed or submitted to the database. Overall, more than 5 million people are identified in the background check system that is maintained by the FBI. It also tracks the names of illegal immigrants, domestic violence offenders and others who are barred from buying guns.

Ron Honberg, legal director for the National Alliance on Mental Illness, was not surprised that more states are reporting since the Virginia Tech shooting. "We're uneasy about it," he said. "We're concerned that in the minds of many, mental illness is, per se, equated with violence."

The list could have the names of people who were ill decades ago but have received treatment and are well, Honberg said.

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I love the title on this, in the paper it is big and bold.

"We're concerned that in the minds of many, mental illness is, per se, equated with violence."
I think in the minds of many, mental illness makes you unstable and irrational which would lead those same people to equate that with not allowing those individuals the ability to have a chainsaw, custody of their children, or eat with sharp instruments either.

The list could have the names of people who were ill decades ago but have received treatment and are well, Honberg said.
Not to mention all the rehabilitated felons walking around.:banghead:
 
Tell me about it.
Let's just decide that only the government is sane and only let them have guns.
I think Howard Dean should be on that list; after his "Beeyaaaaaaa!" speech, I don't think he's very sane.
 
"People are included in the federal database only after courts or other authorities have found them to have mental health problems"

This is so inaccurate. No, it's just flat wrong. Having problems isn't enough to meet the standard, there is a requirement that the person be a danger to themself or another.

John
 
I agree with JohnBT. Just because you have visited a shrink should not disqualify you from owning a gun anymore then it should disqualify you from owning a knife. But if you have been judged/diagnosted to be mentally unstable enough to be a danger to yourself or the general public then you should be disqualified from owning either and not be allowed on the streets! IMO!
 
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