Merwin & Hulbert Operation

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I am thinking about buying a M&H double action revolver from a fellow via the internet. He described the loading process as follows. The empty cases are empty thru the unique Merwin system which I understand. After the frame and barrel are resecured the loading gate is opened and the hammer pulled back to a "safety notch" postion. This does not free the cylinder to rotate as the loading notch does on a SAA. to free the cylinder you pull the hammer back slightly farther which frees the cylinder to rotate. On round is loaded with the hammer back in the safety notch. To load the next, the hammer has to be pulled back slightly again and the process repeated. Somehow this doesn't seem right. Does anyone own one of these that can describe the process? I want to be sure the mechanics are functioning corectly before investing in the gun. Thanks for any help you can offer.

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the loading gate is opened and the hammer pulled back to a "safety notch" postion. This does not free the cylinder to rotate as the loading notch does on a SAA. to free the cylinder you pull the hammer back slightly farther which frees the cylinder to rotate. On round is loaded with the hammer back in the safety notch. To load the next, the hammer has to be pulled back slightly again and the process repeated.

I've got a total of 4 Merwins (in 3 frame sizes, of which 3 are DA, 1 SA) and when the hammer's pulled to halfcock, the cylinder turns a' la Colt SAA on all 4. What's more telling, M,H&Co.'s operating instructions as printed in the inside top of their boxes: "TO LOAD-Place the Hammer at Half Cock. Press the Loading Gate downward and insert the Cartridges." doesn't jibe w. the morphodite procedure your prospective seller describes

Very likely, something is off in that particular revolver's timing, like maybe the halfcock notch is messed up to where the hammer's not quite back far enough to unlock the cylinder on halfcock.

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Thanks Molasses! You saved me from a frustrating transaction.

amvet
 
Molasses,

Nice Pocket Army. I wish the replica makers would discover M&H so I could afford one.
 
Molasses is correct, the half cock position is for loading.

The whole process is as follows.

With the revolver empty, pull the hammer to half cock. Open the loading gate, and turn the cylinder to load cartridges, just like the SAA Colt. The inside part of the cartridge rims will rest on a ring that is part of the frame.

Close the loading gate and the gun is ready to fire.

On firing some or all of the cartridges, again put the hammer on half cock, press up or back (depending on the model) on the barrel release, and turn the barrel clockwise (as seen from the back).

Pull the barrel forward away from the cylinder. If the cartridge cases are the right length, empty cases will fall away (the cylinder might have to be turned manually) while loaded rounds will be held in the cylinder by the bullet. This was the big selling point for the M&H, that it could "tell" which rounds had been fired. That was why M&H had their own line of cartridges; same caliber S&W cartridges will load and fire, but the case length is wrong.

There is another lever on the barrel; pressing it allows the barrel to be pulled completely off the cylinder arbor. Be careful; when the barrel is pulled away from the cylinder arbor, nothing holds the cylinder to the barrel and it can fall off and be damaged.

The M&H guns are very interesting, and pretty well made. They were made by Hopkins and Allen, and the H&A name is on the barrel while the M&H marking is on the side. But in spite of the supposed advantages, they were not big sellers and production ended around 1890. H&A went out of business during WWI.

Coyote, the Army models are pretty steep, but the small .38 and .32 are pretty reasonable. A few months ago, I got a near-new nickel plated .32 DA with the folding hammer spur for $450 (like the bottom one in Molasses' picture), and a .38 SA in so-so nickel for $300. Both fully functional. I also have several I paid less for but that was some time ago.

Jim
 
New M&H company....

http://www.merwinhulbertco.com/about.php

This is the site for a new company. I don't know if it will be successful, but I drooled all over my keyboard when I played with the pull-down choices for what I would like to see them make.

I suggest that those who really want to buy one go to the forum, register, and let them build the business case by knowing about their market.

Bart Noir
 
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