Model 7 predator problems

[bhw4235]

Has anyone had any problems with accuracy with the model 7 predator? Got one last week in 22-250, burris scope, burris rings,leupold bases, lapped rings,torqued all screws, cleaned barrel before i fired it. Shot 55gr. win bst.,hornady v-max moly, remington accubond. Best group shot around 5" 3 shot groups at 100 yds. worst around 10". With the groups getting alot worse after the second shot. Anyone else have any problems?

 

[blackwalnut]

I have a Model 7 predator that I am also somewhat displeased with. Mine is a .223 with a Leupold 2x7 in Burris rings. My groups hover around 2 inches at 100 yards. I then shot my FN mauser 243 along side it and turned in groups ranging from 5/8 to 3 /4 with largest 1 inch. I am still of the opinion I need to get used to the rifle and I am also wondering if Remington is making these rifles with long throats and bullets need to be seated out. I also used hornady 55 grain V-max bullets but also will be trying Sierra bullets in handloads.

For factory ammo I got a box 60 grain Tap Ammo. It also could be me. It seems like your on the right track. One of my friends suggests that maybe the barrel just needs to be broken in. My groups dont get worse they just stay mediocre. Be careful dont heat up your barrel and make sure its not touching any part of the stock that could be creating pressure on it. I started to wonder if the stocks are made properly in other words are the actions properly bedded in. Something else to consider. My next trip i will use the 60 grain Hornady factory loads and Sierra bullet handloads. Good luck with your 22-250.

 

[bhw4235]

Thanks for the reply i also was wondering about the throat being to long, so i worked up a couple of loads with nosler 50gr bt, i seated them out as far as i felt safe, them being seated deep enough in the case to stay put. I seated them out to 2.150 (to ogive) witch is .22 longer than the factory win.bst.55gr.that i checked, And never touched the lands i tried a couple of different bullets and never touched the lands. The groups i got with varget were / 33gr-3.55", 34gr-2.85", 35gr-2.54", all at 100yd with my barrel cooling 3 min. between rounds. 36gr is max load in the nosler book I loaded 5 last night and will test them after work today and see what happens.:banghead:

 

[bhw4235]

Shot a 5 shot group after work yesterday everything the same except with 36gr of varget, the group was 1.92" @100yd . Better! But the group was straight as a string up and down 1.92" spaced about a half inch appart pretty uniform. Any ideas yet?

 

[blackwalnut]

.If you have this vertical stringing this is indicative of a bedding problem even with a synthetic stock. Check to make sure that the action is not being stressed as you tighten the screws. In other words is it properly supported in the stock at the front and back of the action. You can also take it to a local Remington service center like Gander Mountain and if they have a good smith there he might be able to check it out and make repair . Thats also on the list of my things to do if the other potential remedys dont work. I have learned to bed rifles and have good results (like accuracy being very good) and I know synthetic stocks can have there problems too. These are neat rifles and I sure would like mine to work as well as yours. Good luck.

 

[Ridgerunner665]

Bedding yes...but likely not the action.

Contact point in the barrel channel of the stock...is it there? (It should be...most models 7's don't like being free floated)

 

[blackwalnut]

model 7 predator problems revisited

Hey BHW I took my model 7 out today and shot some handloads using some pulled Sierra 55 grain softpoints. The rifle liked them. I then shot some Hornady TAP ammo with 60 grain V-max bullets. Same results. I will be the first person to admit that all along it was possibly me. I checked everything on my own rifle that I told you to check. All was AOK. I shot this rifle after shooting my old French made .222 Remington rifle that weights about 7 to 7 1/2 pounds with a 23" barrel and it hit me the predator is too light in the forend and just doesnt settle down on the rest. I dont know why this epiphany took so long and especially since I prefer long and fairly heavy barrels. I shoot them much better. There are a few exceptions to this. I will try to add some weights to the forend of course inside the barrel channel. To get good groups I had to really concentrate on my bench technique and made sure that forend stayed put. I have had a couple in the past that just took a little time to settle in with. Once you get them sighted in and working well they get to be real favorites.

Yes sometimes it the rifleman.