Mosin Nagant M44 Range Report

[dmftoy1]

makes me feel good about mine. paid 90 for it and none of the serial #s match i have no idea what the bore size is but shooting 50 yards from a sitting position i had 3 shot groups of around 2in
however i had to aim at the right edge of the target to hit center. since i dont see anyway to adjust for windage my m44 has been sitting in the closet for the past year waiting for me to get it drilled and tapped for a scope

I believe the front sight is drift adjustable on these for windage aren't they?

Mine was shooting 1" - 1 1/2" to the left with the bayonet extended and removing the bayonet has it hitting dead center. I just need to shim the damn trigger!

 

[230RN]

DDuupplliiccaattee PPoosstt

 

[230RN]

TTTrrriiipppllliiicccaaattteee PPPooosssttt

(Jeeze!)

 

[230RN]

Pardon my naivete:

I just need to shim the damn trigger!

I noticed the smiley, so I don't know if you're just making a joke that escapes me. I previously remarked about my 91/30 trigger being mushy.

Is this "shimming" something I should know about?

(I know it's an M44 thread, but you guys seem to be experts on M-Ns, and the trigger is common to all M-Ns, so forgive me.)

 

[jpwilly]

You can make your own adjustable mosin nagant trigger with a drill press, tap and small allen screw. Shimming may help a little I've done this but then went to making my own adjustable triggers. My Dad, Brothers and as well as my 5 Mosins all have them and they are a huge improvement.

 

[dmftoy1]

How about some pictures and a "how to"?

Shimming is something I'm playing with off of the surplusrifles.com site. It does drop the pull weight a bit. In shooting off bags I've noticed that I'm having to work pretty hard to release the trigger while holding the sights on the target. It'll hit a 6 inch or 10 inch gong at 100 yards if I concentrate but I think I could hit a 4-5 inch gong if I had a better trigger.

 

[wadeXD-40]

i have a real nice M38 got it for 89 dollars. bought it when i turned 18 actually bought it on 9/11. the rifling is un damaged the stock is nice and it is accurate

 

[TimboKhan]

If your trying to get a better trigger for your Mosin, why not try one of the Huber Ball Triggers? Jamie Mangrum from Surplusrifle.com dropped one in and loves it, they are not all that expensive, and if you really want, you can always put the original stuff back in.

http://www.huberconcepts.com/Mosin-Nagant_Trigger_Replacement.htm

I honestly don't think I have seen a bad review on these things, and if they work as advertised, it seems like a perfectly good, easy way to drastically improve performance.

 

[Cosmoline]

Huber triggers are great, though my own has gone into the parts box since I shifted to Finns with their custom milled triggers.

 

[dmftoy1]

I might eventually try a Huber . ..but there's a part of me that is resisting spending $69 for a trigger for a $89 rifle! That'd be like buying a Model 700 trigger for $450 . . . .

 

[biscuitninja]

DMF,
well don't look at my little 91/30. With a trigger kit, upgraded bolt, smoothed everything, NEW custom barrel, bedding, floating and matching lots of things, its now a pretty nice little shooter. Will it go up against a Fully spec'ed Model 700? Probably not, but it will suprise alot of people. Anyways good luck
-bix

 

[jpwilly]

Okay here's the pictures of my custom adjustable trigger below. Not hard to do but you'll need a drill press and a drill vise, cutting oil, tap and allen screw (ace hardware):

 

[Red Tornado]

dmftoy1,
I did the shim off of the surplusrifle site, but I didn't have his tools so I improvised. I vastly improved my 91/30 and dropped my M38 trigger pull about in half, with no money invested.

Instead of trying to find some random .028 aluminum piece and shimming with .004 pieces of aluminum can, as Jamie did at surplus rifle; I just used multiple aluminum can shims. A standard paper hole puncher will go right through the aluminum. The resulting hole will be juuuuust a little bit to small. You can force it (and it will work) but if you have a dremel, just lightly hit it with one of the stones and it'll be perfect. Punch several holes and then cut the shims to size with any scissors.

I used 6 shims on my 91/30, which should be .024 according to Jamie's measurements. (I don't even have any digital calipers, so I can neither confirm or deny any reported measurements.) I used 7 shims on my M38 and it's like a completely different trigger.

Try it, it's the best thing you can do for free in 15 minutes. (Well, gun related anyway. )

RT, who also refuses to buy a $70 trigger for a $90 rifle.

 

[dmftoy1]

Thanks guys! Right now I've used a piece of old citi-bank credit card as a shim and it seems to have made a difference but it's been too damn cold to get out and try it!

JPWilly, so if I understand your modification correctly the "adjustment" you've made is at the point where the trigger is riding the sear spring? Does it adjust the force required or just remove all the the slop?

Regards,
Dave