Mossberg O\U

[shooter.45]

I was at the local gun dealer today and saw a Mossberg Silver Reserve O/U looks like a well made gun. The engraving looked good also. Anyway he was asking 499.00 I figured I could not go wrong I picked it up for 469.00 I have always wanted a O/U to add to my pump for clay shooting but did not want to pay big bucks seeing I only go once in while now I found one. Does anyone have any experience with this shotgun. I get to pick it up next week... Can't wait..

 

[WillBrayJr]

I have plenty of experiance with Mossberg shotguns, though not with the Silver Reserve. From the ones I've fired, the Silver Reserve should be a Shootin son of a $%@#&!

 

[Kenneth Malone]

I have several shotguns, including SKB and Browning and am not a fan of the Mossberg line of guns. With that been said, I was impressed enough with the Silver reserve that I purchased one. I think you will be pleased with your purchase. I have the sporting clays version with ejectors and ported barrels and I am pleasectly surprised by its performance. It handles much like the Superpose and Citori without having to drag a much more expensive gun thru the brush when hunting. The chokes being included makes it a very flexable gun from the range to the woods. Enjoy!!!!

 

[MCgunner]

Wow, sounds like a really cool gun! I may have to check one out. I've thought a lot about an O/U. That ported one would be the way I'd go.

 

[New_geezer]

The Mossberg Silver Reserve is made by Khan, a Turkish manufacturer. There have been many reports on this gun at Shotgunworld and so far they have been pretty hit or miss. The most common complaint I recall is the lower firing pin not retracting and putting a gouge in the breech end of the lower barrel. People have even seen it in the examples on the store shelves. The concern is soft metal. Of the ones I've looked at in stores some look pretty good, others look pretty cheezy. Some Turkish guns seem consistently good, for example Huglu which makes the CZs and the DeHaans. Yildiz availabel ATT only thru Academy Sports have been getting good reviews. But Khans seem to run hot and cold - you get a good gun - it's a good gun, but otherwise no amount a warranty work seem to make them right.

I hope your guns turn out to be good deals and hope you will keep us posted on their performance. Personally I like Mossbergs in general but the Khans haven't inspired enough confidence yet to buy one. But I'm willing to be convinced.

 

[STiTkacik]

Yeah, keep us updated. I am still thinking about either this gun or the Remington SPR310 OU. Right now I am leaning toward the Remington.

 

[MCgunner]

Ug, made in Turkey? I guess no one will ever build a decent O/U or SxS domestically for a poor man's price. The Red Label may be the closest and at over 1K, I'll never own one.

 

[ron73644]

Mcgunner--see if you can get a lanber 2097---great quality and low price--made in spain. www.cdnninvestments.com -- www.lanber.net.

 

[ron73644]

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Question for Lanber

You can also try these places for more information.
Midstates Shooter Supply
Talo Inc.
Wilayah Arms
Bachelder Master Guns---Service Center for Lanber. They were very helpful with questions I had about the gun.
STB

Back to top

 

[RKellogg]

Armsco 28ga SxS

I bought a Mossgerg SR last fall and love it . I have about 1000 rounds though it with out a problem .

Now I am looking at a Armsco 28 ga SxS . Anyone know anything about these .

 

[Jer]

Silver Reserve weak firing pins

My friend bought the Mossberg Silver Reserve Field model 12ga.(basic one) in April 2006 for $425 w/out tax.

I bought the Sporting model 12ga. (ported barrels, wider rib with mid-rib bead, engraving is not gold - which I prefered anyway) in May 2006 for $525 w/out tax for comparison if the extra $100 was worth it.

Both were brand new out of an unopened box (as we both prefer whenever possible) and verified no damage to lower barrel lip was there (our research - this site was one - before buying had come across this so we knew to look for it).

First impressions were "good value" - my trigger felt very heavy even for a new gun - just under 8# (sometimes taking me off target), but even after some improvement after break-in, might need some work... still too heavy to my liking for trap at just under 7#. Extra $100 for Sporting model depends on whether porting is important (is so, yes - otherwise I'd say no, retrofit mid-rib bead is cheaper).

Now the bad news. After 2000 rds or so (shells - not of trap of course! - they really need to change the terminilogy there to maybe "a set" or something else at least), his UPPER barrel pin broke. The barrels do shoot differently so we both have opted to shoot Upper mostly instead of the usual lower since both our lower barrels require EXCESSIVE "covering" of straight-away birds. They shoot fine for about $450 otherwise.

Dealer shipped it off and he had it back in less than 3 weeks - we assume having both pins replaced now. Another 1000 rds so far, no problem.

Now for my bad news - right at about the same wear in barrels(2000 rds), my Upper pin broke TOO! E-mail to them said to call 800 # - which took my address to send a replacement pin. I said if a known defect, it would be prudent to send two and replace them both at same time, right? Took three weeks and only one pin came in package today from Maverick Arms repair center in TX who is handling all the Silver Reserve problems.

I will try replacing (usually straight-forward, but the spring on this one looks tricky) but they really should have given me a Call Tag to have it shipped back at their expense.

I cannot see on mine how even the lower pin could cause problems during opening/assembly - and have done all the possible situations of dry firing while open, safety positions, etc. My manual does not specifically warn about lower pin contact problem - just how to normally close it, and I still don't see a way for the pin to extrude while open anyway. Maybe my friend and I got "good ones"??

Still - something to be aware of - and also be warned about the weak pins breaking from normal use too!

Hope this helps.

Jer

 

[Ed/Pa]

Jer , one reason for the grooving (of the mono block)was due to folks taking the gun apart ...then dry firing! Upon assembly they didnt move the top lever to the right and slammed the action closed on the exposed pins. Sounds stupid but some guns you can get away with that. It's not something I would practice , heck even my Citori doesnt like that practice........... Sounded like your buddy got the correct response from Moss and you did not? For what it's worth I prefer to speak with a human being when such problems occur. It may be water over the dam now, but is food for thought in the future.

 

[ArmedBear]

So, it seems as if there really IS a problem with these things. The broken pins are NOT all caused by user error (if you can call it that).

Mossberg is providing great warranty service.

However, they must be praying that most people don't shoot these things too much, because it seems that, at 2000-2500 rounds, a firing pin breaks on every single example I've known of with that number of rounds through it. They'll lose their shirts if every gun comes back.

I know people will defend the things, and subjectively I like them myself, but I would strongly advise anyone who is looking to buy one, just don't.

 

[Ed/Pa]

Armed Bear: It is interesting to note ( and you are correct) that pins seem to be a problem and break around 2000 rounds from what we are seeing. This however has nothing to do with the gooving issues that have been bashed around for months. I have been keeping track of the wifes gun since we bought it, but it will be quite awhile before she reaches that number. However, as I said before I'll post any negatives as well as positives on this model shotgun. Again, It has always been my belief that these guns are what they are. A low cost, nice looking, functional shotgun really meant for the folks that shoot on occassion be it hunting or clays. Used as a clay gun only with expectations of firing the gun thousands of times without any hitches would be considered dreaming IMO. That's why they make citori's at 4 times the cost.

 

[ArmedBear]

Armed Bear: It is interesting to note ( and you are correct) that pins seem to be a problem and break around 2000 rounds from what we are seeing. This however has nothing to do with the gooving issues that have been bashed around for months.

THAT is what I've been saying for a while, in my posts regarding this. There's a firing pin problem that doesn't seem to have anything to do with the grooving problem, and which doesn't seem to have anything to do with initially closing the gun with it decocked. THAT'S what I've been saying.

Used as a clay gun only with expectations of firing the gun thousands of times without any hitches would be considered dreaming IMO.

They sell a Sporting Clays version, though, so that expectation is quite understandable among new shotgunners. I would consider it dreaming. HOWEVER, I don't think that the people who've asked about it understand that. If you buy an 870, 500, 1100, 11-87, 3901, or other such gun in the price class, you can use it for tens of thousands of rounds without a hitch.

People think that they can buy an O/U for $500 and expect it to last like an 870, which you can buy for $250. It won't.

I agree with your assessment. However, I don't think you understand what my point has been, which is simple:

An O/U that will last like the cheapest 870 you can buy, will cost you $1500 and up. People on a budget need to understand that, so they don't waste their money on a frustrating lesson.

 

[Ed/Pa]

Armed Bear: We are on the same page just different ways of expressing the same point. My point is exactly the same with respect to the O/U used for clays games only. What I was trying to get across is that this gun used for hunting for the average guy would last a long long time based on how many shots you shoot in a normal hunting season. At the same time, a guy who shoots a couple rounds of trap here and there it would do the same. I wouldnt consider this a waste of money!
Thus I would not want to sell this guy short. As far as the 1100's and 8-70 and 11-87's they as you say not over/unders. which costs more by their nature of machining processes With all that said I believe the SR fills the need and cost bracket for many. What those many need to understand, is the SR will not accomplish what "some" are trying to do with it, and that is buy an O/U shotgun for little money that will hold up like a Browning (or kreighoff) on the clay ranges.
Like I said it is what it is .......For some it's enough! .............................
For others it's what they think is a cheap way out of buying a "real" O/U clays gun ,of which I think we agree on.
Todays O/U's of 5,6,or $700 dollars (dont care whose brand) will suprise the H out of me if they match or hold up on the clays ranges like the brands mentioned above.