Mother-in-law Mauser Surprise!

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I recieved a surprise present from my Mother-in-law over the weekend. We traveled to visit her and other family for
Mother's day, and she said she had a present for me. So she hands me a paper bag and says "Happy Birthday".
Well my birthday is in January, so I was pretty surprised by this, but this is what I found inside the bag...

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It's a C96 broomhandle Mauser, chambered in 7.63 a.k.a. .30 Mauser, complete with the wooden shoulderstock/holster.

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She said it has been in the family for 40+ years and it was passed to her after her brother passed away.

As far as I can tell, it is in great working order and the blueing looks better than I thought it would for a pistol this old.

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I did some reading and it seems like Mauser didn't use serial numbers sequentially -- for every contract they had,
they started over with serial #1 for that contract, and then picked up where they left off on the commercial numbers.

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So I don't know when it was made. The serial number is in the mid 200,000 range, if that tells anything.

If anyone has some good resources or information on these, please pass it along.

I guess it pays to be the one "gun nut" in the family!! :D


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Man! I wish My mother in law was that cool!

All mine does is put my wife in a bad mood (they don't get along too well) :p
 
Oh man....that would be a time to jump up and huge the mom in law really big. then go find something else to get her for mothers day :). What a gift. lucky lucky
 
Beautiful!

But if for some reason you dislike your mother-in-law and you want no part of it, I'll offer you $300 here and now. :p

Congrats!
 
What a wonderful mother-in-law you have! I have a modest Broom collection so I can fill you in a little with what you have. What I consider the defintive work on Brooms (System Mauser by Breathed and Schroeder) and by your photos you have a Standard Pre-War Commercial (as in WW I). The serial number range and with the late extractor and late hammer indicates that is the type you have. You are correct about some contract pieces having their own sequence. The Italian Navy contract had their own sequence of 1 - 5,000. This occured around serial number 15,000 and there seems to be a gap in serial numbers produced by Mauser in the 15 - 20,000 range. Also though the 9mm German Army contract (red 9) had their own sequence of 1 - 150,000 without showing a gap in regular production numbering.

I have a pricing guide from 2000 by Fjestad that shows a Standard Pre-War Commercial with matching shoulder stock at 95% to be $1,450 and if at 98% it goes to $1,800.

Be sure to thank your mother-in-law and give her a big hug and kiss!
 
First of all congradulations, every man and boy dreams of getting such a wonderful present. You have one of the finest handguns ever made in the history of the world. And I might add on of the most accurate.

I will give you some fatherly advice though and do not take this the wrong way. I love Broomhandles but there are several things to watch out for that you should be aware of.

1. If the Gun is not marked N/S which stands for New Safety you can accidently create a condition whereby the gun will fire when you push the safety in the off position. This happens when a person is firing the gun and accidently bumps the safety partially in the on position. When this happens he pulls the trigger to fire and the weapon and the gun does not fire. He stops and looks at the gun and sees that the safety is partially on so he pushes the safety off and then the hammer falls without his pressing the trigger and the gun will fire.

2. If you ever take the gun apart do not take out the "C" shaped rocker coupling because if you put it back in wrong the gun will go back together but will not work and will never come back apart again without drilling a hole in the side of the frame to lift the rocker coupling so you can slide off the upper portion of the gun.

Do not worry though the "C" shaped rocker coupling is held in place by the mainspring and you must deliberately compress this main spring to get it out so it is not a part that would accidently fall out of the gun when you field strip the gun for cleaning. It probably is not necessary to ever take it out unless you are changing main springs.

3. When reassembling the gun watch out for the safety and its attached paper thin flat spring , keep your hands from pressing on this paper thin spring or you will snap it off and there are no replacement parts for this gun. It had about 4 or 5 different safeties anyway and not all interchanged.

4. Never ever fire Tokerof ammo out of this gun or you will damage it. True they are basically the same cartridge but the Tokeroff especially the ammo made by Seller and Beloit is way to strong for these old Mausers.

5. Use only loaded down handloads to prolong the life of this gun or original .30 Mauser Ammo. If the gun is in good condition I would never fire any old corrosive ammo out of it. Your gun is way to valuable to destroy by using such ammo in it.

Once you take the gun apart and see the fantastic workmanship and intricate interlocking parts you will know the difference between a truly quality arm and most of the junk being made today. Do not try to drive any parts that look like pins out because most of them are actually interlocking pieces that slide out when you turn them the right way. Driving some of them out will break or damage the parts. One of the V springs is actually part of the pin it is attached to, an amazing piece of workmanship and engineering.
 
Geez, that's pretty cool. The only broomhandle my mother-in-law would ever give me would be the one attached to her preferred mode of travel.

Actually, she's not bad, but not a fan of guns. Congrats on the Mauser.
 
Thanks guys. It was a complete surprise to me. My mother-in-law usually just makes my wife mad and uncomfortable, and just before she gave me this present, she made my sister-in-law so mad that she took her kids and went home before the rest of us sat down to dinner... :rolleyes:

So it was a total shock that she was so nice to give this to me. I am still reeling from it, but I did thank her profusely.

Thanks for the great information and advice also! I knew I would find some subject matter experts here!
 
what's the ballistic story on the .30 Mauser? Bullet weights, velocity, general accuracy of these guns? Thanks.
 
what's the ballistic story on the .30 Mauser? Bullet weights, velocity, general accuracy of these guns? Thanks

If a Mauser has a good bore the accuracy is astounding because it is basical a fixed barrel weapon. The barrel does not tilt as in many automatics. The barrel which is part of the receiver does move but it moves straight back.

The velocity will vary according to what brand of ammo you use but some really not ammo will approach 1,600 fps. In my opinion too hot for a steady diet of such loads considering manyof these guns are now approaching 100 years old.

The .30 mauser because of its high velocity really cracks and is a blast to shoot , excuse the pun. Hits as far as 100 yards on man size targets are no big deal especially with the shoulder stock attached.

Many Mausers impact rather high at 25 and 50 yards but I have found that this is so because many were sighted in at the factory using the shoulder stock attached. When I put my shoulder stock on the groups impact much closer to the point of aim at 25 and 50 and 100 yards. It also depends what velocity of ammo you are using when firing the weapon. This also affects trajectory and over the long production run of .30 Mauser ammo and all the different ammo makers that made the .30 Mauser ammo you will probably get different points of impact with differnet brands of ammo.

Although the .30 Mauser is often bad mouthed as a less lethal cartridge than the bigger calibers many famous people that used it like Winston Churchill had only good things to say about it. The weapon was reliable when in good conditon with a good magazine spring and good recoil spring and was used by many countries including China and Russia which bought large numbers of them and in China's case they also made some of their own. If the weapon was as aenemic as some conservatives would have you believe then all these countries would not have bought them in such huge numbers or used them for so long a period of time. About a million German made guns were produced and China also made large numbers at home besides buying the original German made guns.

There were some Spanish made copies made one was close to the Mauser internally and the other was quite different inside. One was made by Astra and other was a Spanish copy tht I believe they called the Azull. Some were aslo made in full auto. They came in different barrel lengths and a long barreled carbine was also made. Even in the old days when they were much more common at gun shows it would have been difficult find and collect all the variations. All the copies and the original German guns have escalated wildly in value over the years as weapons that are in very good condition are becoming very scarce. One finds many rebuilt guns on the used market ranging from excellent to very poor mechanically.

For further reading see "System Mauser" by Schroeder and Breathed and "Textbook of Autoloading Pistols" by Wilson.

Wilson's book is a fascinating read because he actually owned and tested some of the very first autoloading pistols made at the turn of the century. His article on the "Mars Pistol" and all of its magnum calibers prove that Great Grandpa had magnums too even though most of us were never aware that such a weapon with a complete array of various size magnum calibers which were chambered in it even existed. It also had a turning bolt somewhat like the Desert Eagle but predated it by many, many years. So what seems like something new to us is often nothing more than a rehash of something tried years ago but now is largely unkown and forgotton.

Don't plan on buying a Mars pistol , that last one I looked at cost $50,000 dollars and it was like new. Broomhandles are not that expensive yet but give them a few more years they will undoubtably catch up. Buy one now while you still can afford one.

The weapon was not a very well balanced pistol but its unusual looks and mechanical operation make it as desirable a collectors item as the German Luger is today. Like the Luger the workmanship is out of this world and one wonders how the old time gunsmiths could have made such precision made handguns and made them in such large numbers and at such an affordable price beause without that they would not have sold in such huge numbers to so many countries especially poor countries like China.

These weapons will never be made again if they would be probably not with the precision made workmanship and quality materiels that they were once made from. Thats why people who appreciate and understand what quality is in a pistol go absolutely wild over such weapons. Each year they become more and more scarce and more and more expensive. When you consider how high a quality they are the prices they ask are not as bad as one would think. People pay $2,500 for a custom built 1911 and many of them have cast parts put into them and they do not balk at paying such prices but they seem to hesitate when spending this amount or far less (like I did, $1,200 for a mint one) on a nice Broomhandle.

If you like an exotic looking pistol that is rare and cracks like a rifle when you shoot it you will love the Mauser Broomhandle.

I might ad most of the ones I have handled and fired also had trigger pulls the rivaled most production line handguns being made today and they beat the average Luger trigger pull by a good mile.
 
sounds like WhoKnowsWho and treeprofs mothers in law should go bowling and hang out with my mother in law.

They could all trade storys on how their sons in law have wasted so much money on guns and what does my baby girl see in him.

:p

Excellent gift GrandmasterB.


Silly question time; doesn't adding the stock make it an SBR?
 
Silly question time; doesn't adding the stock make it an SBR?

To my knowledge original stocks on original guns are legal, adding a reproduction stock would entail registering it with the Government and paying a fee.
 
Heckuva fine Mother-in-Law...

Make sure your wife stays happy and your Mother-in-Law will always be happy with you.

Kudos to mom.
 
I doubt I'll ever get anything nearly that cool from a future mother in law. Great find, keep it in the family.

Kharn
 
I haven't cleaned the barrel yet, but using a bore light reveals that although it is a little dirty, there is no clear sign of corrosion, and the rifling is nice and deep and clear.

I'll try a few swabs tomorrow after work and report again.
 
Wow...You mother in law is Han Solo? That is awesome!! Can I get an autograph and a picture with her blaster?;)

In all seriousness though, if my mother and law gave me something like that, Id straight crap my pants. That is so freaking awesome.
 
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