It depends: If I am going long distances and will be on or with the bike at all times and I will be traveling through unfriendly territory, I have the gun in my tank bag. Otherwise I carry in the front breast pocket of my jacket, which will hold a full size 1911 or in a shoulder bag. I also carry on my hip at times, but I am hesitant to do that because of the damage it can cause in case of an accident and the difficulty of getting to the gun.
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MCgunner
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Your best defense on the motorcycle is your right wrist...well, maybe not on a cruiser, I guess. But, I'd prefer to outrun danger than try to shoot off a motorcycle with my eyes off the road. Access on the bike is of little concern to me. I won't be going for the gun unless I'm off the bike. Even my little SV650 will outrun most and out handle (with me on it) any production car some gang bangers would be in, or whatever the incident. Actually, it's faster and FAR better handling than my old Wing. ROFL. I could get cornered, though, and have to stop and find cover, but the most likely scenario is defense off the bike, buying gas and walk into an armed robber or something. I want the gun on my person at all times for this reason. Pocket carry just seems best. Might not be able to get at it on the bike as easy, but it ain't on the bike where I'm going to need it.
MCgunner
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To each his own. I haven't crashed off track in many moons. I'll take the chance. I don't live in a major city, either, no big time traffic, no crowded freeways. Population here is 12K and even adding the rest of the county only gets you to about 30K, if that much. I ride over to Victoria once in a while, pop 60K, wear my mesh. Still, it's the freeways in Houston that scare me. The high banks of Daytona ain't squat to that!
I still dabble in competition even at 57. I quit the big bikes for good, sold my RS125 when I lost my job 6 years ago, and dabble in minis now. I've raced a KX80 **** and now am messing with mad dawgers, XR100 based bikes, both road race ( www.tmgps.8k.com ) and local flat tracks where I can find them. There was a series I was running on the east side of Houston, but it broke up. I prefer mini road racing, though. Crashing is almost fun on kart tracks. LOL Flat track is mad dawg eat dawg and crashing usually sux when you're bar to bar and at 57, I don't need no more broken bones.
As McGunner said to each their own. But let me point out a couple of things.
A. as regards tank bags , personally I don't use magnetics , I prefer the oldfashioned strap-on Eclipse I've had for twenty five years , very robust mounting system , if some just 'grabs it and runs' the bike is going to try to come with 'em , and most of the magnetics come with a safety strap that folks are *supposed* to use ,it's just that most people don't.
And leathers , I was born in Texas , spent a lot of time in Texas and am intimately familar with the heat and humidity , but sorry Texas isn't the hottest place on the planet , where I live now we see plenty of 105 plus days during the summer , and yup I'm still wearing my leathers , other folks can do what they wish but getting out of bed and having to soak the sheets and underwear that stuck to the scabs off the roadrash isn't my cup of tea.
And like McGunner I haven't binned one on the street in years and years , but tell ya what folks it's a case much like wearing shooting glasses ( which some folks present the same sort of arguements about) or indeed *carrying a firearm for defense* , when ya need one of these items due to the situation then you NEED IT and not much else will help you.
And I agree that in the last analysis it's as MCG said 'to each their own' , me I'm ATTGATT as far as riding but I don't much preach it to others , it's their hide. Not mine.
To each his own. I haven't crashed off track in many moons. I'll take the chance. I don't live in a major city, either, no big time traffic, no crowded freeways. Population here is 12K and even adding the rest of the county only gets you to about 30K, if that much. I ride over to Victoria once in a while, pop 60K, wear my mesh. Still, it's the freeways in Houston that scare me. The high banks of Daytona ain't squat to that!
I still dabble in competition even at 57. I quit the big bikes for good, sold my RS125 when I lost my job 6 years ago, and dabble in minis now. I've raced a KX80 **** and now am messing with mad dawgers, XR100 based bikes, both road race ( www.tmgps.8k.com ) and local flat tracks where I can find them. There was a series I was running on the east side of Houston, but it broke up. I prefer mini road racing, though. Crashing is almost fun on kart tracks. LOL Flat track is mad dawg eat dawg and crashing usually sux when you're bar to bar and at 57, I don't need no more broken bones.
I'm just a skip behind you agewise , and I'm in complete agreement with you on Houston traffic , driving in from the Woodlands and Conroe when I was living out that way was a pain in the a## , riding in was worse since you're really not supposed to lane split in Texas.
I haven't given up the bigger bikes yet , prepping a GSXR1000 for the spring bunch of SCTA runs and perhaps to come out to Goliad to the Texas Mile , the P/P 1000 SCTA record is only 192.283 for the class and it's already run a gps verified 189 and change on a non optimal surface.
And funny you mention XRs , I have more fun on a kitted out 123cc XR100 on a Motard ( kart) track than should be legal , and through the dirt wheels back on it's a gas in a woods environment where it's tight.
Still got the TZ250 too ( what can I say ,I'm a dinosaur) to occasionally school a few youngsters at a trackday that thing they are quick just 'cause they made it up into A group , along with old 450 Proddy Honda ( and exercise in futility against the FZR400s in those days).
And as old as I am I still like the wheel to wheel intensity of the local short-tracks , though I do admit to sticking to the historic series so my Astros don't get blown into the weeds by the Knight framed specials and the like.
I'm looking at property out there , it's more likely to be Alaska or wyo , but who knows I could end up out around Kerrville or farther south out in the Big Empty in Brewster or Jeff davis county..
Mods: apology for the temporary sideways content , but old folks born in Texas that recognise each other as such are likelt to shoot the horse apples about bikes and guns for a moment when they see each other.
Back to sidearms on a bike , I pointed this out once folks , but I'll do so again ,keep in mind the GLOVE factor , if push comes to shove many of us are going to have to yank off that glove before being able to utilise the weapon.
MCgunner
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And safer than big stuff, so you can afford to be aggressive as hell. That's why I love it.
I had a bare bones machine 123 XR that needs a crank and have a 150cc Frank Nye stroker I was flat tracking and will sprint, now with TMGP. The KX had 17s and 125 rubber, big disc, appropriate rims, all bikes have Linderman suspension. Big, big fun on little tracks. The little KX is like a motoGP scaled down, little power wheelies off corners, big slides. It's a hoot. Won a lot of races with it. But, they cut down on the classes for the KX, thus I retired it and started building yet another XR with the front end off the two stroker. I rid myself of TZs many years ago. Hell, the 125s I was riding are as fast now days as the 250s were when I was riding them. I had a D model monoshock with an F model Kanemoto top end and a B model cases/tranny and Lectron powerjets and, well, it was piecemeal, but it was fun. Did RDs before the TZ stuff.Actually, I haven't been back to the track in a year. I've had too many of other peoples stuff to fix, work on small engines in retirement. I'm going to get something going for next year, though, dangit! LOL
I get in the ATGATT arguments with others. It's danged hot down here and I ride every day for transportation, even hauled my XRs to the track behind my old Gold Wing on a flat bed trailer. I've even gone goose hunting on the wing using a trailer to haul the gear. I've been riding since 13, shooting since 6, so I like to combine the two as much as possible.
I'll do a squirrel trip to the piney woods now and then, usually take my Contender/.22 match barrel, 2x optic in a saddle bag, but now I have this Ruger Mk2 with an optic that's fun and accurate enough, 1" at 50 yards accurate. Deer hunting off the bike is a bit much, hauling coolers and such, so I stick to birds and small game and have guns I can fit in my bags. Latest is a 10 gauge H&R turkey, 24" barrel, just fits in the top box of the old Wing when taken apart. It's my goose gun.Back on direct topic, I originally bought a Mitch Rosen Workman IWB tuckable to keep the shirt tail from flying up on me. The guy with the wing mentioned he sits on his shirt tail. That works on the wing, but on the SV, even though I have a set of Honda Hawk bars on it that sits me up a little better, any sport bike, your shirt tail rides up a bit and you can't sit on it. Even with my armored mesh or heavy winter riding jacket on, I don't want my shirt tail riding up over the gun. SO, pocket carry just seems logical to me. I usually carry my Kel Tec P11 right front pocket and one reload on the belt. If I fall on it, it won't break anything and probably would save me a little rash.
The one thing that screws up the pocket carry thing is if I have a rain slicker on. But, I can get to it if OFF the bike and I see no reason to get to it ON the bike. I bought this pair of waterproof armored riding pants some time ago, but have only worn 'em once. It's got to be pretty cool out of they'll COOK you. They have a big enough pocket on 'em for the P11. I had some "draggin' jeans" for a while, but the pockets are too small on those things. They didn't really fit good, anyway, so I sold 'em on a MC board.
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bikerdoc
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Carry on a bike should be no different than carry off a bike.
Concealed means concealed.
357, 45, 9mm they all have riden with me. I am 61 been riding since I was 16
Iwb, owb, shoulder, whatever works for you.
Me, Iwb every day all day. If I got pant on I got a weapon, and it is concealed.
Concealed means concealed.
357, 45, 9mm they all have riden with me. I am 61 been riding since I was 16
Iwb, owb, shoulder, whatever works for you.
Me, Iwb every day all day. If I got pant on I got a weapon, and it is concealed.
Marlin 45 carbine
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danbrew started this - I won't be outdone
left to right - Taurus .22 and speedloader, box of CCI MiniMag+V cartidges, US SURVIVAL takedown (carrys 2 mags in stock and I carry a spare loaded w/MiniMags), Beretta .32acp and spare mag, Makarov 9MM and spare mag and up front my fiest 'Fleetwood'. I usually carry a .22LR and box of cartridges and mag/speedloader along with a centerfire pistol sometimes an H&R 20ga and spare shells. if I'm going camping I always go with spare cartridges/shells and another pistol. I had an 'incident' happen to me and it ain't gonna happen again.
sometimes I carry .357Mag, 9MM 5906, Marlin Camp 9 etc. always spare cartridges/mag/speedloader. it ain't gonna happen again.
my fiest 'Fleetwood' rides easy in side bin of my VW trike 1700cc.
left to right - Taurus .22 and speedloader, box of CCI MiniMag+V cartidges, US SURVIVAL takedown (carrys 2 mags in stock and I carry a spare loaded w/MiniMags), Beretta .32acp and spare mag, Makarov 9MM and spare mag and up front my fiest 'Fleetwood'. I usually carry a .22LR and box of cartridges and mag/speedloader along with a centerfire pistol sometimes an H&R 20ga and spare shells. if I'm going camping I always go with spare cartridges/shells and another pistol. I had an 'incident' happen to me and it ain't gonna happen again.
sometimes I carry .357Mag, 9MM 5906, Marlin Camp 9 etc. always spare cartridges/mag/speedloader. it ain't gonna happen again.
my fiest 'Fleetwood' rides easy in side bin of my VW trike 1700cc.
Visit www.sandssalesco.com for a great holster that fits right on your bike. I have one for my xd45ACP on my Harley Deluxe. Fits on the right side really handy. I don't have to worry about what happens to me if I go down. It is lockable and since Arizona is an open carry state--no problems.
I never did carry on my bike until my bike was stolen from me at gunpoint while stopped at an intersection. Now I carry my Ruger LCP, IWP with a pocket clip, just behind my hip, you don’t even notice it. It’s even hard to notice if your jacket is blown up by the wind.
Five of Clubs
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I didn't see this method mentioned. I carry in my strong side cargo pocket in a Nemesis holster. I can reach it riding, sitting at a light, whatever. You can get a pretty decent size pistol in there too. I "swishes" a little too much when walking, so I usually go to a bathroom and switch to front pocket when I stop to hang out.
Quack
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1911, IWB 4 o'clock.
ohio has open & concealed carry, so if my jacket happens to ride up, no worries
ohio has open & concealed carry, so if my jacket happens to ride up, no worries
Tinman357
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I carry a S&W 60 in a left handed shoulder holster. Adequately fast but re-holstering on the move isn't happening. That's in addition to whatever else I happen to be carrying in the cross draw.
Shooting on the move isn't easy, I've practiced it. (access to an old airstrip) I suspect your question isn't so much about an attack face to face but more of a concern of some slime ball in a car intentionally trying to run you off the road.
It happens. Some people want to know what it feels like to kill
. The only evidence is just another motorcycle wreck. Lots of sick folks out there. Without sidetracking the thread and possibly offending some members here, Just drop me a PM and we'll discuss it off line.
BTW: I ride through Seattle from Everett to Gig Harbor often. I know the sickos of which I speak.
I carry a S&W 60 in a left handed shoulder holster. Adequately fast but re-holstering on the move isn't happening. That's in addition to whatever else I happen to be carrying in the cross draw.
Shooting on the move isn't easy, I've practiced it. (access to an old airstrip) I suspect your question isn't so much about an attack face to face but more of a concern of some slime ball in a car intentionally trying to run you off the road.
It happens. Some people want to know what it feels like to kill
. The only evidence is just another motorcycle wreck. Lots of sick folks out there. Without sidetracking the thread and possibly offending some members here, Just drop me a PM and we'll discuss it off line.BTW: I ride through Seattle from Everett to Gig Harbor often. I know the sickos of which I speak.
BCRider
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As a rider (hence my username)I'm surprised at all the small of back or under arm holster wearing folks here. I sometimes carry a backpack. But based on the numerous stories I've read about spine damage due to carrying heavy or hard objects I refuse to carry anything other than soft goods such as clothing or a thin layer of magazines. Putting a hard object such as a gun back there seems like you're taking a helluva gamble. The stories here suggest that as well. After all, other than for the very worst of areas you're in far more danger of a get off and hard landing in an accident than in being bike jacked. Even a hip carry is asking for a possible broken pelvis.
I think if I was down in the US and had a concealed permit I'd have the gun in a tank bag and transfer it to my body at stops. Or since tank bags are often equiped with shoulder straps for easy carry perhaps set up a gun pocket in the bag that's really easy to get to and just carry it around that way.
Not that I think I'll change anyone's mind since I've found that in matters such as these we make up our own minds and then stick to it one way or the other. But perhaps it'll make folks that are considering it think about the options, odds and scenarios.
I think if I was down in the US and had a concealed permit I'd have the gun in a tank bag and transfer it to my body at stops. Or since tank bags are often equiped with shoulder straps for easy carry perhaps set up a gun pocket in the bag that's really easy to get to and just carry it around that way.
Not that I think I'll change anyone's mind since I've found that in matters such as these we make up our own minds and then stick to it one way or the other. But perhaps it'll make folks that are considering it think about the options, odds and scenarios.
MADDOG
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642 inside pocket of a Levi jacket. That is what that pocket is for. IMO
SweetKnuckles
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Not much use for bike mounted holsters.
- My strong hand is too busy with throttle and brake to ever conceive of using it while on the bike
- When it's time for a stop, removing the handgun from the bike mounted holster to a person-mounted holster is time-wasting and more of a display than I like to provide when I carry.
- My strong hand is too busy with throttle and brake to ever conceive of using it while on the bike
- When it's time for a stop, removing the handgun from the bike mounted holster to a person-mounted holster is time-wasting and more of a display than I like to provide when I carry.
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On hot days i carry a comander 1911 with a leather blackhawk holster with extra mag built in the holster. One days i wear leathers i carry a 38 in my front pocket. Always have a passenger when ridding also and the 1911 dosent bother her.
model of 1905
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Why should riding a motorcycle be any different than any other time. Always carry. When I'm on my Harley I either open carry or conceal carry, just like any other time. (On my person.)
Colton White
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This is the honest truth i had a horrible motorcycle accident about a year ago and il tell you this right now if i was carrying in any way or fashion not only would i probably never find it again and i think there's a great chance it would have shot my A$$ off! The amount of force and danger involved in motorcycle crashes is astounding. Make up ur own mind i have.
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