Nationwide shall issue concealed carry.

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That's it? That's pretty non-specific. What exactly would the plan be to make this happen? Is this arguing to force the states to recognize each other's permits as-is? Or to mandate a specific kind of nationwide permit system? What about states that don't require a permit or license? How are their citizens covered?

We've discussed this (a lot) before. Whatever the plan is, it has to have a well thought-out approach that does the least damage to both states' rights and to the current liberties enjoyed by the citizens of the various states.

Otherwise it is even less effective than any other on-line petition.

Might as well write one that says, "Everyone should have ice cream!" :scrutiny:

How, what, by what means, where does the funding come from, what are the accepted down-sides, etc.?
 
Why was this moved from activism?
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Because you're asking for a discussion about whether folks would sign this.

If it is a call to action, that's in "Activism." If this is a request for discussion about the efficacy and appropriateness of the idea (which is what you indicated) then that's "Activism Discussion."
 
It just means that the united states as a whole will follow the shall issue concealed carry laws that most states already have.
 
I wouldn't sign it. Once the feds get ahold of our carry rights there is nothing to keep an anti gun administration from deciding to so serverely limit or restrict carry rights as to make it not worthwhile. Leave it with the states.
 
The US as a whole neither recognizes or does not recognize carry permits, leaving that up to the individual states.

Unless you're meaning federal property -- that would be cool if the federal government had to accept state-issued carry permits in federal buildings.

But this seems more like forcing the individual states to make their concealed weapon laws uniform. So what becomes the standard? You said, "like most states already have" but which ones? Each state has its own peculiarities. About half of them might be considered fairly similar, but issuing practices, testing/training, fees, off-limits locations and such are all very unique state-to-state. Do "easy" states like PA have to toughen up their law to conform to a national standard? Or do "hard" states like MD have to ease up and become shall-issue? By what legal means could the federal government require that?

It might be easier to try and simply require each state to recognize a permit issued by another state, but (as we're discussing HERE) even that is unprecedented. Other credentials like medical licenses, drivers' licenses, etc. are not federally required to be recognized by states other than the issuing state. (And often aren't.) Nothing in the world of law exists in a vacuum. The federal government taking on the authority to force one state to recognize a credential issued by another would have repercussions for every aspect of endeavor in which a license is required. The effect would be to basically federalize an enormous collection of legal issues which are now reserved to the states. ... And centralized control like that is worrisome to many.
 
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Wait, I might be missing the point.

Are you saying that there should be a federally-issued concealed-carry permit that all states must recognize?

That's interesting, but problematic. Right now, as I said, the federal government does not claim the right to have any say in whether a citizen may carry a firearm or not -- except in federal buildings. As far as the US Constitution and the federal government are concerned, they do not have the right to control that aspect of the citizens' lives.

Giving the federal government control over that -- for positive reasons (because we want a federally-recognized CCW permit) -- establishes the legal precedent that they absolutely do have control over that. When the wheel turns and CCW is out of favor, that won't be such a good idea. The power to create is the power to destroy.
 
This is a really bad idea to get the centralized federal government involved in licensing a constitutional right.
 
I view concealed carry as a State's issue so no, I wouldn't sign it.
 
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