Need ideas on what type scope to use and slugs

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I have a mossberg 835 and have a rifled slug barrel on the way with the cantelever scope mount and was really thinking of putting on a red dot scope, or am I better off with a reg scope in either a fixed power or variable ? I need something for the state parks that I want to hunt more dont think I would be shooting much passed 100 yds . Another ? what type brand slug ammo do you recomend and do you like 3" or 2 3/4" better thanks for any help
 
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For under 100 yards I think you would be fine with a fixed 4x but I prefer a lower power variable so you can keep it dialed down for closer ranges for easier target acquisition and have the ability to zoom a little if you need to take a long shot. I really prefer a scope to red dots on a slug gun but that's just personal preference. Which ever way you go don't go with something cheap that will not hold zero.

I wouldn't mess with any bdc reticals or anything like that either, they tend to be off quite a bit the just plain old cross hairs are fine as long as you know the slugs trajectory.

For the most part all your sabot slugs are going to shoot flat out to 125-150yds so the need for bullet compensation is really not an issue.

http://swfa.com/Nikon-165-5x36-SlugHunter-Shotgun-Scope-P42355.aspx
http://swfa.com/Leupold-2-7x33-Rifleman-Shotgun-Muzzleloader-Scope-P5867.aspx

As for slugs I really like the Winchester Supreme Gold Partition sabot slugs in my 20ga Rem 870 and see no need to change.

I shoot the 2 3/4 and have shot deer out to 75yds with no problem. I would not be afraid to go out to 125-150 with these slugs in my 20ga if the opportunity ever occurs.
http://www.winchester.com/Products/...inum-tip-hollow-point-slug/Pages/SSPTH12.aspx

My step dad really likes the Hornady SST slugs. He has killed several deer with these out to 125yds with no problem out of his 12ga 870 with a hastings rifled barrel. He also uses the 2 3/4 shells.
http://www.hornady.com/store/12-ga-Slug-300-gr-FTX/

You could go with the 3inchers if you wanted to gain a little more velocity and range with less drop but to the expense of more recoil.
 
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Red dots are great for up close and personal deer hunting...Especially where the action is going to be fast. They are great for quick shots and speedy target acquisition.

I like a low power variable for the areas that I hunt. I rarely have a shot of or over 100 yards.

I used to have a fixed 4x32 Simmons scope on my Remington 870 but I "lost" a deer in the scope when it was approximately 10 yards away from my stand. All I could see was brown and I could not make the shot. It cost me a deer and I swapped out that 4x scope that same season. I went to a Simmons Red Dot site and I liked it but I missed the magnification so before the next deer season I mounted a Bushnell 1.75-4x32 Trophy scope on my H&R Ultra Slugger in 12GA...I liked it so much that I purchased one for my Remington 870 as well. Both my slug guns now wear the same scope and I couldn't be happier.

I keep my low powered variable down on 1.75x and if need be, I can turn it up to 4x which is its maximum magnification.
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If you aren't looking to break the budget but need what I've found to be a reliable, you could try this 1.5-4.5 variable from Bushnell. It has a 50 yard parallax setting which should do you fine for slugs out to 100 yards.

I've used it on several firearms and have no complaints with it. There are better and higher priced optics on the market.....not sure what your budget might be.
 
Also, buy the most scope that you can afford...I know that I paid around $90 or so for my Bushnell Trophy scopes. I have been thinking about swapping the one on my Ultra Slugger out...But, why fix what isn't broken. I purchased those scopes when I was in a lower paying job. I can now afford to put Leupold on my guns but still like those Bushnells...Five years and the guns have never left zero...That says something about those scopes...
 
I have a Mossberg 930 with a Mossberg cantelievered barrel and a Nikon 3x9-40 Slug Hunter (BDC) scope on it. I like the Slug Hunter because of the clear optics and the outstanding eye relief -- better than you'll find on just about any other shotgun scope. It's tough, clear, light, and the reticle is easy for acquiring your target. That said, I sighted mine in dead on at 100 yards, and do the hold-over manually, I don't rely on the additional dots.

I just shot a 10-point buck in Calhoun County, IL during the 2nd gun season at 180 yards with a 2 3/4" Winchester Supreme XP slug. During the sight-in, I found the XP and the Partition Gold slugs to be the best for accuracy, but that will depend upon your shotgun barrel more than anything. Good luck in finding the right combination for your gun!

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I have a mossberg 835 and have a rifled slug barrel on the way with the cantelever scope mount and was really thinking of putting on a red dot scope, or am I better off with a reg scope in either a fixed power or variable ? I need something for the state parks that I want to hunt more dont think I would be shooting much passed 100 yds . Another ? what type brand slug ammo do you recomend and do you like 3" or 2 3/4" better thanks for any help

I have a Rem 870 12ga with a cant. scope lever rail, I mounted a Nikon Buckmaster 3-9 power on it. I shoot Winchester Partition Gold 385gr rounds from it. Been hunting with it for 4 years now.

First thing is first: DON'T BUY A RIFLED SHOTGUN UNLESS YOU ARE COMMITED TO SPENDING A MOTHER LOAD OF MONEY TO SIGHT IT IN AND SHOOT IT.:banghead:

This is not a rifle, and you will spend a few hundred sighting it in and figuring out what ammo you want.

1 box = 5 shot = $12-$20= about $3 per shot.

The ammo is not the most consistent, FLIERS REALLY REALLY REALLY STING.

You will need 2 boxes to get a confident grouping, then several more to test how reliable the groupings are, not all will give you the same each time. The $ adds up.:banghead:

I say all this becasue it is a little shock when you go buy a handfull of the brands to test getting just one box of each will round up to $100.

I felt it necessary to warn you about all that since no one did to me when I got my rig. I wanted a more accurate shotgun since that is all I can hunt with here, and I am a rifle man really. I like to know where my rounds will hit at what range.

The other thing about, deer hunting and using a scope, it really depends on the style of hunting you are doing.

Party hunting, accept for opening day, opening hour, most of your shots will be running deer. I got lucky one year and a deer stopped and looked at me for a minute, I shot it in the head at 75 yards, and it dropped right there.

However, being able to pick your shot is very rare when the deer are being chased. And close range tracking shots are very hard. I shot a cyote this past season at 30 yards, running, but it took me 3 shots to hit it. I had a shot at 2 deer running broadside of me at 30 yards and couldn't find them in my scope.

The cyote I was able to take only because I powered my scope down to 3x after a mistake earlier.

I was set up for a long shot on a field dialed into 9 power, and I was in the sitting position up against a fence, so my side to side movement was very limited, and I was too zoomed in when they were in front of me running.

I said all that to illistrate a point, I would highly reccomend using rifle sights and rifle sights only for hunting deer.

I love my scope, but I am quickly finding out it is the wrong tool for the job, party hunting.

However, if I was out by myself, and the deer were calm and not being chased, it would be the perfect tool. I could confidently hit a deer out to 200 yards with it.

And for opening shot of a party hunt, when the deer are calm, I has been perfect also.

Red dot sights would be ok, but unless you talk about theMark4 CQT or ACOG or Eotech, I have heard unreliable things about "red dots" from the field, such as not shooting exactly where you see the dot.

Shooting $3 bills makes me want to have the most accurate rig I can get.

If you absolutly have to have optics...

Spend the money, and don't shop on price. You can put optics on anything you want, even if you change your hunting gun.

I personally don't want anything battery powered, so when the battery fail you are left without a sight.

This is a business gun so you want it to be rugged.

You have to have a wide angle field of view. The wider the better, so you can track running deer.

You want an accurate scope that you can trust to shoot from the lowest power to the highest power.

You also need to have a long eye relief, of your face will get a little surprise during those quick shots.

You need the increments on the scope to be true to what they are supposed to be.
 
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