need recommedation for youth/junior auto for club competition

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Hi,

What would y'all recommend for a handgun for a nine year old shooting club level USPSA-style matches? We have a Ruger MK II that he shoots well, but the reloads might not be too fast. What gun, what caliber (.380 Auto?). I am a reloader, so could load some pretty light ammo for him in whatever we got.

Thanks for you time.
 
Whatever fits his hands...

If Rimfire is allowed, then the MKII wouldn't be a bad choice. The mags won't drop freely without assistance, but installing an extended mag release and an extended bolt release from Volquartsen would really be a plus. And with practice, you'd surprised how fast his reloads could be. The hunter models have the fiber optic sights. A real plus if you can add them to your pistol if those are allowed.

Other rimfire choices- A Browning buckmark. A better trigger out of the box, and the mag release where it should be. Better sights? Even a S&W 22A would be good, but he'd probably out grow the durability of something that's got aluminum parts.

To jump up to .380 if that meets spec for your matches would be a Colt Mustang or Colt Government series 80 .380. (Not a full sized Government model 1911) There are near equivelants of these in different brands, but you'll have the best resale value with these when he out grows them. Stay away from the 'pocket' .380's. Many of which are DA anyway.

If he can shoot something bigger... A Colt Commander or an Officer's ACP in 45acp with lightened springs and light loads might just be the ticket.

If you've got more money to spend, there are several smiths that build .38spl and .38Super 1911's. -Even some factory options. Oh OK, even one of the smaller 1911's in 9mm. I would stick with a single action semi-auto. If nothing else but for length of trigger pull and you can get slim grip panels for the 1911 series. And the Commander/Officer series has the grip safety that the Mustang and series 80 .380 don't have.

Buying guns for kids isn't quite the same as buying shoes for them, but close. Thankfully they outgrow the shoes much faster. I try to buy guns for my boys that they won't outgrow any time soon. So, in your case, a Commander sized 1911 in 9mm, 38spl, 38super or 45acp would be something they could shoot for years to come with options for the frame, (swap the top), down the road.

If he's got longer fingers for DA pull, don't rule out a revolver. A good many of the smaller framed S&W's with 3-4" barrel would be great. A Colt Diamondback too. Speed loaders are readily available for them. .38spl with wadcutter loads would be quite managable.

I guess the key is, what ever the Range Officer and your local club match rules allow. If they'll allow the rimfire for a junior for practice and gain experience until he's big enough to run the bigger guns, I'd go with that. When he starts beating the slowest adult competitor that's shooting centerfire, it might be time to bump him up.

-Steve
 
We have a couple of young teens shooting USPSA locally, and if I remember right, both shot producion, one with a Glock 9mm, the other began the year with a 9mm M&P, but traded it for a used Open gun in .38super, and moved to Open division. The kiddo shooting the Glock had some trouble with his dad's reloads early in the season, but got it ironed out (maybe by reloading himself) later in the year. Good luck, be safe and have fun.
 
You can rule out .380, it doesn't meet the minimum requirements. First, what class is he going to shoot in, Open, Limited, Limited 10, Production or Single Stack? Each will have its own best choice. For production for example a SA XD would be a good choice. Limited and open, you may want to consider a STI. He should be able to handle major caliber, so for everything except open I would recommend .40, for open .38 super. Also, you can load lighter ammo, but if you load it too light, it won't make major so it will have an adverse effect on scoring.
 
the club is pretty laid back, they don't have classes

They don't have seperate classes, it is just a real laid back match. He is not a fan of recoil, so that's got to be a consideration, as well as what his hands will fit.

He is pretty good from a rest with the Ruger, so that is probably what we'll start with, and if he's into it, I like the idea of a 1911 style since that is what I have, maybe in 9mm or 38super. I wonder how the recoil of 38super compares to 9mm...?
 
Sounds like our spring Duello league. There are two classes. Rimfire, Centerfire. Unlike our Bullseye league. Our pins matches are set this way too. Bring what ya got for Pin Tops on the third weekend of the month, but there's power factor to be met for full pins at the end of the month.

I've seen many clubs run modified matches so more people can enjoy that discipline. USPSA and IPSC, you'll see less modifications of the rules, but I like that sort of thing when I hear of it. Right now my teenager is shooting Rimfire Bullseye, Two handed. So he's shooting along side everyone else that's shooting for score with one hand, but not entered in league. He's gaining valuable experience for when he does start shooting league by the rules. So, my hat's off to you 'dad' that's looking at the posibility of your son shooting in a fun discipline.

38super recoil compared to 9mm? Power factor reviewed, felt recoil will be more than 9mm. Not much, but a bit more if both were fired from the same platform. 9mm will be much cheaper to shoot/reload for. 9mm pistol will most likely be cheaper to purchase. You will have less headache with 9mm. 9mm is widely available. 38super is not.

-Steve
 
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